Would you bring back the death penalty?
Would you bring back the death penalty?
Author
Discussion

Gareth350

Original Poster:

1,557 posts

207 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
For crimes that there is no doubt that the accused is guilty?

Matt Evans

1,530 posts

202 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
Yes. It would be a succesful deterrent rather than the offer of a luxury prison cell.

the_smalls

1,003 posts

231 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
There is almost always doubt though, so no.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

253 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
Yes. As long as it's public and I can have the ticket concession. If you are going to kill people as a punishment you may as well make a profit out of it. Could have live televised executions every Saturday night just after the lottery draw.

Don

28,378 posts

312 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
No "doubt". Not possible.

So the answer is no.

If an innocent person was murdered by the state even once it would be too many times.

Besides. I prefer that the most serious of criminals rot in the knowledge they will never, ever be free again.

Puggit

49,674 posts

276 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
If there is no doubt - bring it back.

The Prophet

129 posts

206 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
Gareth350 said:
For crimes that there is no doubt that the accused is guilty?
You might like to specify the severity of the crime.

There is no doubt that my brother was doing 42mph in a 30mph zone last month. But I think the death penalty may be a little harsh.

Hugo a Gogo

23,436 posts

261 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
the fact that some prisoners are released doesn't mean death is the only alternative

sort the sentencing and prisons out, so that life means life

Cotty

42,147 posts

312 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
the_smalls said:
There is almost always doubt though, so no.
There is no doubt if it is caught on CCTV camera.

bazking69

8,620 posts

218 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
Yes. On the basis that it is proved beyond all doubt and the trial is by the book.

Gareth350

Original Poster:

1,557 posts

207 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
swerni said:
Don said:
No "doubt". Not possible.

So the answer is no.

If an innocent person was murdered by the state even once it would be too many times.

Besides. I prefer that the most serious of criminals rot in the knowledge they will never, ever be free again.
you mean like Jamie Bulger's killers?
I actually had those two in mind when i asked the question!

If, someone committed murder, for instance, then admitted it or DNA proved a crime, why should we pay for them to go to prison for 20+ years, i feel, if they ended a life, then they dont deserve to live themselves?

soad

34,527 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
As a society we used to hang children for stealing bread back in the 1800's, people still committed crimes though.

The death penalty isn't a deterrent because people that commit crimes think that they will get away with it.


Engineer1

10,486 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
Cotty said:
the_smalls said:
There is almost always doubt though, so no.
There is no doubt if it is caught on CCTV camera.
umm not 100% imagine a fight starting off camera then ending infront of the camera in the death of someone involved, what happened off camera? Even with 100% clear cut evidence there could be mitigation.

GTIR

24,741 posts

294 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
Death penalty for Isaac Hunt.

Discraceful behaviour.

Simbu

1,909 posts

202 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
It would reduce the high prison population that MoJ / CPS / Police keep complaining about... scratchchin

singlecoil

35,817 posts

274 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
If some day it may happen that a victim must be found, I've got a little list.......

Cotty

42,147 posts

312 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
soad said:
As a society we used to hang children for stealing bread back in the 1800's, people still committed crimes though.
But I bet there was a drop in repeat offenders.

lawrence567

7,507 posts

218 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
Make prisons more brutal so that it's not a nice place to go!

Don

28,378 posts

312 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
swerni said:
Don said:
No "doubt". Not possible.

So the answer is no.

If an innocent person was murdered by the state even once it would be too many times.

Besides. I prefer that the most serious of criminals rot in the knowledge they will never, ever be free again.
you mean like Jamie Bulger's killers?
However abhorrent the crime they were juveniles. There was probably an obligation to try and rehabilitate them. It failed, of course, in Venables case. I suspect he will not walk free again.

Had they done the same awful deed as adults I doubt they would ever have been released.

And, of course, my personal view is that neither should have ever been released.

This does not negate my argument for avoiding the death penalty.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

239 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
quotequote all
What are expecting to change if we do have a death penalty?