Isocyanate-free paint systems
Isocyanate-free paint systems
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eng622

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191 posts

248 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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I want to repaint my classis Alfa myself with a durable topcoat two component system which is also iso free. Can this be done in 'solids' (black)or is basecoat/clearcoat the only option. I've sprayed solid paint in the past, cellulose and iso 2 pack but don't want to use either again if there is an alternative. Thing is I've never used base coat/lacquer system and ask if there are ones suitable for air drying. Advice please.

paintman

7,842 posts

210 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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A quick google 'iso free lacquer' brings this up.
http://www.smartrepairsupplies.co.uk/epages/es1126...
As to whether its any good, I have no idea!

Base coats - either water or solvent based - do not usually require a hardener so do not conatain isocyanates. BUT always check with the paint supplier.

Whatever you use, if you are spraying the wear proper repiratory equipment.

TallPaul

1,524 posts

278 months

Friday 12th March 2010
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I've used a couple of different isocyanate-free paints and personally, I wouldnt ever want them on my car. They both seemed to loose their gloss within a year, we had reactions when recoating them (admittedly with normal 2k, but this was more than 3 months later), and they had reletively little coverage.

touchngo

69 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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dont use iso free its crap, it never fully hardens

Anatol

1,392 posts

254 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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There is a truly excellent non-isocyanate lacquer in the current generation of products.

The gloss retention is better (after immediate polishing) than most iso clears, when fully cured (which does happen!) you can scrub it with gunwash and it completely resists it (I have done).

When we were selecting an isocyanate for our booth repair line, we found the majority disappointing compared to the performance of this non-iso on everything except bake times.

Almost all commenters won't have had the chance to use it, though, so they won't be in a position to discuss it from any position of first-hand knowledge.

The previous generation of non-iso clears were plagued with problems, most people's experience of non-iso will be from that generation, and out of date.

The lock-in agreement means it's no help to a DIY-er wanting it for their own project, unfortunately...

Tol

Edited by Anatol on Tuesday 22 June 10:03


Edited by Anatol on Tuesday 22 June 10:04

TallPaul

1,524 posts

278 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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After a quick scan of HMG's website, I'm guessing you're talking about their "Two Pack Acrylic Epoxide" called "Autosafe 3 Clear".
You're right, I havent used it, so cant comment on its abilities. It does seem very strange to me that the website requires you to be registered and to log in, in order to view details about its products. Most paint companies are falling over themselves to give you information.

Eddie 4.2

823 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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touchngo said:
dont use iso free its crap, it never fully hardens
wot he said

Eddie 4.2

823 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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eng622 said:
I want to repaint my classis Alfa myself with a durable topcoat two component system which is also iso free. Can this be done in 'solids' (black)or is basecoat/clearcoat the only option. I've sprayed solid paint in the past, cellulose and iso 2 pack but don't want to use either again if there is an alternative. Thing is I've never used base coat/lacquer system and ask if there are ones suitable for air drying. Advice please.
Why dont you want to use it again? im guessing you dont no anything about paint work lol