Car damage by bereived woman!
Discussion
Sunday night, got togged up, off for dinner wiht missus and little one, drove out the road onto a country lane in our village, and in the middle of the road, dead, is a poor pussy cat, bloody pool from it's head. Car went straight over the top if it, it wasn't flat yet, but was a young cat and only about 2.5 inches off the road, so the mondeo was untroubled by it. We stopped, confirmed it was dead, and it had a tag on, with its name and phone number, a local number i cold tell from the village, so I made a note of it, and got back in the car. As cat owners, my missus was a bit upset, but as we were togged up, and a bit late, I did not move the cat to the side of the road, but called the number from the car to explain what had happened. If there had been no answer, I was going to go home, get some gloves and stuff and move it to the verge, but if they answered, I was going to suggest the owner pop over and retrieve the little blighter.
So we drew to the end of the narrow lane, and parked up, and I made the call. As I stopped at the end of the lane, the brake lights illuminated some guy walking with two spaniels along the road toward the cat.
Woman answered, and I broke the bad news, she was very uspet and was crying, but they litterally lived backign onto the raod it had happedned on, and she said she'd get her son to go and attend to it.
We drove off, a bit of a downer, but it happens.
Thought nothing more of it til I get a call from missus this morning to say she has found a note on our car, saying "thanks for killing my cat you wxxxxer! Karma is a b
h!"
I am away from home this week! SO WTF! I had a note on the woman's number in my phone so called her. She said her some was told by some guy walking his dogs that he got the number of the car that killed her cat! Its a personal reg and we live about 100 yards from dead cat. She had then seen the car in her drive while walking her dog and was agry and put the note on it...........(fair enough maybe, got the wrong end of the stick........?). Then she says, "oh and of course I will pay for the damage!"
"What damage?" says I.....
She then confessed to having scratched the wing and bonnet of the car, my missus had not seen it, having had her eye drawn to the note on the screen!
Missus says it is about 3ft long through to metal on the bonnet and 6 inches on the wing! Its a 2005 mondeo with all original paint in a funny metallic petrol bluey colour! Although a workhorse, it is a nice ghia x spec and we look after it, so needless to say I am not best pelased! She said she will come to see me and appologise on Friday when I am back.
Should I wait to see if she does and if she makes good on her promise to fix it? As the crow flies, she is only 50 yards from me, but walking it is half a mile so I dont know them at all, but a neighbour who does says they are "straight" people! She's about mid 50's it seems.
You cannot do right for doing wrong it seems. Although mad at the woman who has commited crim damage, (even if I HAD kiled her cat, it is uncalled for!) but am also mad at the guy with the dogs, (I sort of know him) as he clearly had seen half of the events, but poked his ore in and wound these people up, when they are a bit upset.
What would PHers do, (apart from the back doors, obviously!)
As testiment to my cat appreciation etc, we have an unclaimed for cat that died on the main road 3 years ago buried in our garden as I did not want to see it rot away ont he verge with no dignity! Grave of the "unknown moggy" is marked with some tulips!
So we drew to the end of the narrow lane, and parked up, and I made the call. As I stopped at the end of the lane, the brake lights illuminated some guy walking with two spaniels along the road toward the cat.
Woman answered, and I broke the bad news, she was very uspet and was crying, but they litterally lived backign onto the raod it had happedned on, and she said she'd get her son to go and attend to it.
We drove off, a bit of a downer, but it happens.
Thought nothing more of it til I get a call from missus this morning to say she has found a note on our car, saying "thanks for killing my cat you wxxxxer! Karma is a b
h!" I am away from home this week! SO WTF! I had a note on the woman's number in my phone so called her. She said her some was told by some guy walking his dogs that he got the number of the car that killed her cat! Its a personal reg and we live about 100 yards from dead cat. She had then seen the car in her drive while walking her dog and was agry and put the note on it...........(fair enough maybe, got the wrong end of the stick........?). Then she says, "oh and of course I will pay for the damage!"
"What damage?" says I.....
She then confessed to having scratched the wing and bonnet of the car, my missus had not seen it, having had her eye drawn to the note on the screen!
Missus says it is about 3ft long through to metal on the bonnet and 6 inches on the wing! Its a 2005 mondeo with all original paint in a funny metallic petrol bluey colour! Although a workhorse, it is a nice ghia x spec and we look after it, so needless to say I am not best pelased! She said she will come to see me and appologise on Friday when I am back.
Should I wait to see if she does and if she makes good on her promise to fix it? As the crow flies, she is only 50 yards from me, but walking it is half a mile so I dont know them at all, but a neighbour who does says they are "straight" people! She's about mid 50's it seems.
You cannot do right for doing wrong it seems. Although mad at the woman who has commited crim damage, (even if I HAD kiled her cat, it is uncalled for!) but am also mad at the guy with the dogs, (I sort of know him) as he clearly had seen half of the events, but poked his ore in and wound these people up, when they are a bit upset.
What would PHers do, (apart from the back doors, obviously!)
As testiment to my cat appreciation etc, we have an unclaimed for cat that died on the main road 3 years ago buried in our garden as I did not want to see it rot away ont he verge with no dignity! Grave of the "unknown moggy" is marked with some tulips!
Edited by poo at Paul's on Thursday 11th March 16:44
dougc said:
Report.
Get the cow a criminal record.
I did consider it. We actually have 3 old bill live in our street. Although not on local forces, I thought I could have a word with one of them. I think she will know one of them as she lives close to his old man, who's been there 50 years, so maybe it will help her to "play ball!". Get the cow a criminal record.
To be fair to her, she did seem absolutely mortified that she had damaged the car of the "good samaritan!"
Have a word with the bloke who was out walking his dog. Make it "very clear" to him what the actual events were, and what the consequences of his actions were. If he gets shirty, punch his f****** lights out.
The woman and/or her son were probably a bit unhinged after having their pet moggy "allegedly" killed, and then getting to find out who did it. So probably thought (in their unhinged state) that some swift retribution was in order.
So long as she sorts it out pronto I would ok about it. I can understand her actions, although I can't condone them.
The woman and/or her son were probably a bit unhinged after having their pet moggy "allegedly" killed, and then getting to find out who did it. So probably thought (in their unhinged state) that some swift retribution was in order.
So long as she sorts it out pronto I would ok about it. I can understand her actions, although I can't condone them.
Edited by ukwill on Thursday 11th March 16:50
I think she will baulk at paying for a "proper" repair, so I would report it before she has time to think up an excuse. If she has a visit without warming she will confess and you are more likely to get the full cost paid out.
It may well have been a spur-of-the-moment thing but she spent the time to write the note too.
It may well have been a spur-of-the-moment thing but she spent the time to write the note too.
she has offered to pay for the damage so cant say fairer than that really. If you were in her shoes what would you have done?
She was obviously very upset and in the heat of the moment done something she shouldn't have.
So if it were me i'd give her the benefit of the doubt and let her pay for the damage.
If she doesnt then take it further.
HTH?
D
She was obviously very upset and in the heat of the moment done something she shouldn't have.
So if it were me i'd give her the benefit of the doubt and let her pay for the damage.
If she doesnt then take it further.
HTH?
D
She won't pay for a proper repair, they never do, and what if the paint job doesn't match. Anyone who knows how much car bodywork costs to fix wouldn't a) do it in the first place, and b) wouldn't just glibly say I'll pay for it unless she is minted.
So it will be an insurance job, and for that you would be best with a crime number.
See where this is going?
Once it's sorted THEN have a word with the dog walker.
So it will be an insurance job, and for that you would be best with a crime number.
See where this is going?
Once it's sorted THEN have a word with the dog walker.
Diablos-666 said:
she has offered to pay for the damage so cant say fairer than that really. If you were in her shoes what would you have done?
She was obviously very upset and in the heat of the moment done something she shouldn't have.
So if it were me i'd give her the benefit of the doubt and let her pay for the damage.
If she doesnt then take it further.
HTH?
D
Do this. Make the point that you're upset and it's going straight in to a proper body shop.She was obviously very upset and in the heat of the moment done something she shouldn't have.
So if it were me i'd give her the benefit of the doubt and let her pay for the damage.
If she doesnt then take it further.
HTH?
D
I'm of the same thinking, but it is outrageous when you think about it too! The cat was dead in the middle of a singel track road, (blood stain is still there!). Even if I had hit it, and killed it, well I am afraid that just happens sometimes and you cannot damage property as a punishment!
But clearly she was upset, I felt bad enough being the bearer of the bad news!
BTW, this is genuinely what happened, and if I had have hit it, I would have happily said so, it is one of them things. But I didn't and was just trying to do the right thing. I think she knows that now having had a "chat" . Shame I am away this week, I think if I were to meet her face to face, I'd have a better idea about what sort of people they are.
My missus is pretty pee'd off by it all.
Oh, and I will be having a word with the dog walker! especially as he put and window in the front of his house last month wihtout any plannig permission! I'll point out how much grief he would be in if we all poked our noses in!
But clearly she was upset, I felt bad enough being the bearer of the bad news!
BTW, this is genuinely what happened, and if I had have hit it, I would have happily said so, it is one of them things. But I didn't and was just trying to do the right thing. I think she knows that now having had a "chat" . Shame I am away this week, I think if I were to meet her face to face, I'd have a better idea about what sort of people they are.
My missus is pretty pee'd off by it all.
Oh, and I will be having a word with the dog walker! especially as he put and window in the front of his house last month wihtout any plannig permission! I'll point out how much grief he would be in if we all poked our noses in!
Edited by poo at Paul's on Thursday 11th March 17:06
Honestly, do you need neighbours like this? Report it, now.
The silly bint shouldn't be doing that to your car whether you had killed the cat or not. She'll probably change her story when she sees the estimate for repair, so waste no time and accept nothing less than a top quality repair job.
The silly bint shouldn't be doing that to your car whether you had killed the cat or not. She'll probably change her story when she sees the estimate for repair, so waste no time and accept nothing less than a top quality repair job.
How can someone accuse a motorist for killing a cat that has wondered out into the middle of a public road?
And where did she get the idea that vandalising someone's car was a just and suitable response?
I would report her to the police and let them sort her out.
Her behaviour is unacceptable!
And where did she get the idea that vandalising someone's car was a just and suitable response?
I would report her to the police and let them sort her out.
Her behaviour is unacceptable!
Crim damage, report to police ASAP, let her tell her side of the story to BiB, at least there will be a record of it. At best, she'll be told to pay for repair to car by BiB, at worst crim record.
After a few months, cow deserves some payback. Superglue in locks is a pain to get out, stuff like that.
After a few months, cow deserves some payback. Superglue in locks is a pain to get out, stuff like that.
You aren't even legally obliged to report killing a cat and even if you had hit it i'm affraid that's life. My wife is a big cat lover but when I hit a cat even she admitted that there was nothing we could do to avoid it. We didn't stop and we didn't rtry to identify it. If you own a cat and you live near a road it's one of lifes hazards.
What would I do in your situation?
Contact the Police and get a crime number but tell them you want to give the lady a chance to rectify the damage. Then if she doesn't, get back in touch with the Police and take it further.
The dog walker? To be honest if I saw him i'd say something but I wouldn't purposefully go out of my way to have a word. There's nothing to gain.
As for grief over a dead cat, yes I get that but resorting to criminal damage. Some people need to have their heads read.
What would I do in your situation?
Contact the Police and get a crime number but tell them you want to give the lady a chance to rectify the damage. Then if she doesn't, get back in touch with the Police and take it further.
The dog walker? To be honest if I saw him i'd say something but I wouldn't purposefully go out of my way to have a word. There's nothing to gain.
As for grief over a dead cat, yes I get that but resorting to criminal damage. Some people need to have their heads read.
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