Another ****-boiler - Maggie Atkinson
Another ****-boiler - Maggie Atkinson
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Petemate

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Saturday 13th March 2010
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While I appreciate that she probably has the best of intentions, I would like to get hold of her shoulders and shake her until her eyeballs fall out. The Childrens Commission for England! They think the killers of poor little Jamie should not have been prosecuted - eh???!!! Heard it on the news coming in to work this morning. She says the age of criminal responsibility is too low, it should be 12; in some other countries it is 14 - well, I don't give a flying fk about other countries and nor do they about us. I feel that 10 is about right and it could even be a bit lower - don't tell me that kids do not know what they are doing at that age, they bloodywell do. While I admit that most of the evil kids around develop the evil as a direct result of their upbringing, the fact remains that once they are possessed by such evil there seems to be no cure or chance of rehabilitation. To all the bleeding hearts and do-gooders out there, accept it - kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable. Just consider the cases of persons who are let out into the community then disappear - lock 'em ALL up I say - build more prisons if that is what it takes. No mercy. Kids? Them too if necessary - those two should have been put away for the rest of their lives not given new identities at great expense. The latest situation with Venables just proves - IT DOESN'T WORK - keep them inside.
Rant over

alfabadass

1,852 posts

224 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Have you ever dealt with a 10 year old for a criminal matter?

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

259 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Petemate said:
While I appreciate that she probably has the best of intentions, I would like to get hold of her shoulders and shake her until her eyeballs fall out. The Childrens Commission for England! They think the killers of poor little Jamie should not have been prosecuted - eh???!!! Heard it on the news coming in to work this morning. She says the age of criminal responsibility is too low, it should be 12; in some other countries it is 14 - well, I don't give a flying fk about other countries and nor do they about us. I feel that 10 is about right and it could even be a bit lower - don't tell me that kids do not know what they are doing at that age, they bloodywell do. While I admit that most of the evil kids around develop the evil as a direct result of their upbringing, the fact remains that once they are possessed by such evil there seems to be no cure or chance of rehabilitation. To all the bleeding hearts and do-gooders out there, accept it - kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable. Just consider the cases of persons who are let out into the community then disappear - lock 'em ALL up I say - build more prisons if that is what it takes. No mercy. Kids? Them too if necessary - those two should have been put away for the rest of their lives not given new identities at great expense. The latest situation with Venables just proves - IT DOESN'T WORK - keep them inside.
Rant over
Idiot.

Petemate

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1,674 posts

216 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Parrot of Doom said:
Petemate said:
While I appreciate that she probably has the best of intentions, I would like to get hold of her shoulders and shake her until her eyeballs fall out. The Childrens Commission for England! They think the killers of poor little Jamie should not have been prosecuted - eh???!!! Heard it on the news coming in to work this morning. She says the age of criminal responsibility is too low, it should be 12; in some other countries it is 14 - well, I don't give a flying fk about other countries and nor do they about us. I feel that 10 is about right and it could even be a bit lower - don't tell me that kids do not know what they are doing at that age, they bloodywell do. While I admit that most of the evil kids around develop the evil as a direct result of their upbringing, the fact remains that once they are possessed by such evil there seems to be no cure or chance of rehabilitation. To all the bleeding hearts and do-gooders out there, accept it - kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable. Just consider the cases of persons who are let out into the community then disappear - lock 'em ALL up I say - build more prisons if that is what it takes. No mercy. Kids? Them too if necessary - those two should have been put away for the rest of their lives not given new identities at great expense. The latest situation with Venables just proves - IT DOESN'T WORK - keep them inside.
Rant over
Idiot.
Well well, that touched a nerve eh? I stand by what I said and I'm willing to bet there are many more who think as I do.

Petemate

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1,674 posts

216 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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alfabadass said:
Have you ever dealt with a 10 year old for a criminal matter?
No - but I have brought up five kids and I am happy that none of them ended up trying to kill someone

grumbledoak

32,439 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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While I don't feel any need to rant about this sort of stuff, or rant in general for that matter, I do largely agree:

Tens years old is more than enough to know that beating a toddler to death with rocks and iron bars is wrong. And, no matter the cause or the age, people this broken are not cureable. Our justice system should strive for mercy, but not to the point of ignoring reality.

But, socialism has seldom involved admitting the ugly truth. In any arena.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

295 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Petemate said:
alfabadass said:
Have you ever dealt with a 10 year old for a criminal matter?
No - but I have brought up five kids and I am happy that none of them ended up trying to kill someone
Well what sort of a parent are you? Your children have been deprived of the opportunities for fame and fortune that killing someone could have brought them. I bet you've even indoctrinated them that they must go out to work and earn their own living as well. You bd. They could be hapily living on on benefits now with several children of their own from different DIVERSE spouses learning to be proper members of Britains soon to be islamic society with asbos and everrything. I hope your proud of the damage you have done.

Bloobird

238 posts

212 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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nonegreen said:
Petemate said:
alfabadass said:
Have you ever dealt with a 10 year old for a criminal matter?
No - but I have brought up five kids and I am happy that none of them ended up trying to kill someone
Well what sort of a parent are you? Your children have been deprived of the opportunities for fame and fortune that killing someone could have brought them. I bet you've even indoctrinated them that they must go out to work and earn their own living as well. You bd. They could be hapily living on on benefits now with several children of their own from different DIVERSE spouses learning to be proper members of Britains soon to be islamic society with asbos and everrything. I hope your proud of the damage you have done.
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CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

251 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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This thread has insufficient Diana.

Eric Mc

125,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Petemate said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Petemate said:
While I appreciate that she probably has the best of intentions, I would like to get hold of her shoulders and shake her until her eyeballs fall out. The Childrens Commission for England! They think the killers of poor little Jamie should not have been prosecuted - eh???!!! Heard it on the news coming in to work this morning. She says the age of criminal responsibility is too low, it should be 12; in some other countries it is 14 - well, I don't give a flying fk about other countries and nor do they about us. I feel that 10 is about right and it could even be a bit lower - don't tell me that kids do not know what they are doing at that age, they bloodywell do. While I admit that most of the evil kids around develop the evil as a direct result of their upbringing, the fact remains that once they are possessed by such evil there seems to be no cure or chance of rehabilitation. To all the bleeding hearts and do-gooders out there, accept it - kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable. Just consider the cases of persons who are let out into the community then disappear - lock 'em ALL up I say - build more prisons if that is what it takes. No mercy. Kids? Them too if necessary - those two should have been put away for the rest of their lives not given new identities at great expense. The latest situation with Venables just proves - IT DOESN'T WORK - keep them inside.
Rant over
Idiot.
Well well, that touched a nerve eh? I stand by what I said and I'm willing to bet there are many more who think as I do.
No doubt.

They are called "the mob".

Petemate

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1,674 posts

216 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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nonegreen said:
Petemate said:
alfabadass said:
Have you ever dealt with a 10 year old for a criminal matter?
No - but I have brought up five kids and I am happy that none of them ended up trying to kill someone
Well what sort of a parent are you? Your children have been deprived of the opportunities for fame and fortune that killing someone could have brought them. I bet you've even indoctrinated them that they must go out to work and earn their own living as well. You bd. They could be hapily living on on benefits now with several children of their own from different DIVERSE spouses learning to be proper members of Britains soon to be islamic society with asbos and everrything. I hope your proud of the damage you have done.
Not quite sure how to take that. I am hoping that it is a jovial poke at the sort of society we have now got - if so, boy, is it spot-on. If not, then I have no worries whatever how our kids were brought up.

grumbledoak

32,439 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Eric Mc said:
They are called "the mob".
Interesting. Am I a member? I don't pay any 'subs', or anything.

Eric Mc

125,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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No fee required - just atitude.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

295 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Petemate said:
nonegreen said:
Petemate said:
alfabadass said:
Have you ever dealt with a 10 year old for a criminal matter?
No - but I have brought up five kids and I am happy that none of them ended up trying to kill someone
Well what sort of a parent are you? Your children have been deprived of the opportunities for fame and fortune that killing someone could have brought them. I bet you've even indoctrinated them that they must go out to work and earn their own living as well. You bd. They could be hapily living on on benefits now with several children of their own from different DIVERSE spouses learning to be proper members of Britains soon to be islamic society with asbos and everrything. I hope your proud of the damage you have done.
Not quite sure how to take that. I am hoping that it is a jovial poke at the sort of society we have now got - if so, boy, is it spot-on. If not, then I have no worries whatever how our kids were brought up.
I am a bit worried your not sure biggrin

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

287 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Petemate said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Petemate said:
While I appreciate that she probably has the best of intentions, I would like to get hold of her shoulders and shake her until her eyeballs fall out. The Childrens Commission for England! They think the killers of poor little Jamie should not have been prosecuted - eh???!!! Heard it on the news coming in to work this morning. She says the age of criminal responsibility is too low, it should be 12; in some other countries it is 14 - well, I don't give a flying fk about other countries and nor do they about us. I feel that 10 is about right and it could even be a bit lower - don't tell me that kids do not know what they are doing at that age, they bloodywell do. While I admit that most of the evil kids around develop the evil as a direct result of their upbringing, the fact remains that once they are possessed by such evil there seems to be no cure or chance of rehabilitation. To all the bleeding hearts and do-gooders out there, accept it - kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable. Just consider the cases of persons who are let out into the community then disappear - lock 'em ALL up I say - build more prisons if that is what it takes. No mercy. Kids? Them too if necessary - those two should have been put away for the rest of their lives not given new identities at great expense. The latest situation with Venables just proves - IT DOESN'T WORK - keep them inside.
Rant over
Idiot.
Well well, that touched a nerve eh? I stand by what I said and I'm willing to bet there are many more who think as I do.
No doubt.

They are called "the mob".
Hang on Eric, until we are allowed to know the reason why Jon Venables was "put back inside" and can see that it was not a (another) complete failing of "the system" then people are going to suspect the worse and react to that.

Oh wait a minute WE AREN'T ALLOWED TO KNOW THE REASON WHY as our socialist betters have decided we don't need to know.

Well there you go, guess someone, someone unaccountable, got the sums wrong AGAIN.

grumbledoak

32,439 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Eric Mc said:
No fee required - just attitude.
Disagree = the mob?

I do hope you don't believe this.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

259 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Petemate said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Petemate said:
While I appreciate that she probably has the best of intentions, I would like to get hold of her shoulders and shake her until her eyeballs fall out. The Childrens Commission for England! They think the killers of poor little Jamie should not have been prosecuted - eh???!!! Heard it on the news coming in to work this morning. She says the age of criminal responsibility is too low, it should be 12; in some other countries it is 14 - well, I don't give a flying fk about other countries and nor do they about us. I feel that 10 is about right and it could even be a bit lower - don't tell me that kids do not know what they are doing at that age, they bloodywell do. While I admit that most of the evil kids around develop the evil as a direct result of their upbringing, the fact remains that once they are possessed by such evil there seems to be no cure or chance of rehabilitation. To all the bleeding hearts and do-gooders out there, accept it - kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable. Just consider the cases of persons who are let out into the community then disappear - lock 'em ALL up I say - build more prisons if that is what it takes. No mercy. Kids? Them too if necessary - those two should have been put away for the rest of their lives not given new identities at great expense. The latest situation with Venables just proves - IT DOESN'T WORK - keep them inside.
Rant over
Idiot.
Well well, that touched a nerve eh? I stand by what I said and I'm willing to bet there are many more who think as I do.
No, it didn't touch any nerves. The many who would agree with you are also idiots.

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

214 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Petemate said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Petemate said:
While I appreciate that she probably has the best of intentions, I would like to get hold of her shoulders and shake her until her eyeballs fall out. The Childrens Commission for England! They think the killers of poor little Jamie should not have been prosecuted - eh???!!! Heard it on the news coming in to work this morning. She says the age of criminal responsibility is too low, it should be 12; in some other countries it is 14 - well, I don't give a flying fk about other countries and nor do they about us. I feel that 10 is about right and it could even be a bit lower - don't tell me that kids do not know what they are doing at that age, they bloodywell do. While I admit that most of the evil kids around develop the evil as a direct result of their upbringing, the fact remains that once they are possessed by such evil there seems to be no cure or chance of rehabilitation. To all the bleeding hearts and do-gooders out there, accept it - kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable. Just consider the cases of persons who are let out into the community then disappear - lock 'em ALL up I say - build more prisons if that is what it takes. No mercy. Kids? Them too if necessary - those two should have been put away for the rest of their lives not given new identities at great expense. The latest situation with Venables just proves - IT DOESN'T WORK - keep them inside.
Rant over
Idiot.
Well well, that touched a nerve eh? I stand by what I said and I'm willing to bet there are many more who think as I do.
Oh, lots of people think the same way as you do? Big deal. Lots of people used to believe in and hence support the drowning of witches too - a lack of education on whatever subject results in those sort of non-informed judgements.
Unfortunately for you though, no one cares what you think because you are totally unqualified to make statements such as "kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable". On what basis do you make that claim, or is it just as a result of reading too much sensationalist media and getting emotional over it all combined with your past life experience which, due to your expert knowledge of the subject, I'm sure was full of 'schitzos' and 'paedos' that you have examined and studied.

There are people who have spent their lives studying psychology, neuropsychology, psychiatry and the like who have a much better idea on the subject than you have. I think they will be in a better position to judge whether 10 is too young. Your understanding of the matter is worthless and your rant is almost embarrassing to read due its simple mindedness.


Did you actually listen to what the lady had to say and consider her arguments, or did you just come to your informed conclusion straight away because you obviously know best?

Edited by Shay HTFC on Saturday 13th March 22:14

Petemate

Original Poster:

1,674 posts

216 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Shay HTFC said:
Petemate said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Petemate said:
While I appreciate that she probably has the best of intentions, I would like to get hold of her shoulders and shake her until her eyeballs fall out. The Childrens Commission for England! They think the killers of poor little Jamie should not have been prosecuted - eh???!!! Heard it on the news coming in to work this morning. She says the age of criminal responsibility is too low, it should be 12; in some other countries it is 14 - well, I don't give a flying fk about other countries and nor do they about us. I feel that 10 is about right and it could even be a bit lower - don't tell me that kids do not know what they are doing at that age, they bloodywell do. While I admit that most of the evil kids around develop the evil as a direct result of their upbringing, the fact remains that once they are possessed by such evil there seems to be no cure or chance of rehabilitation. To all the bleeding hearts and do-gooders out there, accept it - kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable. Just consider the cases of persons who are let out into the community then disappear - lock 'em ALL up I say - build more prisons if that is what it takes. No mercy. Kids? Them too if necessary - those two should have been put away for the rest of their lives not given new identities at great expense. The latest situation with Venables just proves - IT DOESN'T WORK - keep them inside.
Rant over
Idiot.
Well well, that touched a nerve eh? I stand by what I said and I'm willing to bet there are many more who think as I do.
Oh, lots of people think the same way as you do? Big deal. Lots of people used to believe in and hence support the drowning of witches too - a lack of education on whatever subject results in those sort of non-informed judgements.
Unfortunately for you though, no one cares what you think because you are totally unqualified to make statements such as "kids like that pair, together with paedos, schitzos, sexual predators and the like are NOT curable". On what basis do you make that claim, or is it just as a result of reading too much sensationalist media and getting emotional over it all combined with your past life experience which, due to your expert knowledge of the subject, I'm sure was full of 'schitzos' and 'paedos' that you have examined and studied.

There are people who have spent their lives studying psychology, neuropsychology, psychiatry and the like who have a much better idea on the subject than you have. I think they will be in a better position to judge whether 10 is too young. Your understanding of the matter is worthless and your rant is almost embarrassing to read due its simple mindedness.


Did you actually listen to what the lady had to say and consider her arguments, or did you just come to your informed conclusion straight away because you obviously know best?

Edited by Shay HTFC on Saturday 13th March 22:14
Whatever you state regarding the "experts" I consider that 73 years on this earth and in contact with all walks of life (including 12 years in the RAF) and, yes, many different types of people entitles me to have a valid opinion on the subject in hand. It is a sad fact that there are not more people prepared to stand up for decent values in this broken - yes, broken - society.
I will continue to watch this thread with interest and I have noticed that there are those on this forum who seem to skip from section to section with the prime purpose of shouting down anyone who dares to speak out. Well, good on you all - you are of course entitled to your opinions.
Cheers

Evil Jack

1,636 posts

253 months

Saturday 13th March 2010
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Whilst I don't agree with the OP's stance, I must say that the way she described what that child (James NOT Jamie) went through as 'unpleasant' is incredibly insensitive.
She should apologise for that at the very least.