The Departed is it a good film?
The Departed is it a good film?
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prand

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Monday 15th March 2010
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I finally watched The Departed last night. It has been out for a while, and comes highly recommended. But although it had a pretty good buildup, some really great characters (Nicholson seemed to be enjoying himself a bit too much!), and it was gripping and involving, it didn't really work for me as a Top Film of of the 21st century.

Without going into the details too much, I felt too much of the plot was confused and contrived, and very hammy, and after the requisite Scorscese bloodbath at the end I was left with a rather empty feeling as if there was nothing (and nobody) left. Maybe that was the point, but I didn't get it.

What do people think?

Fuzzy Wuzzy

623 posts

213 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Maybe you should check out the Hong Kong original (and sequels(s)) that Hollywood ripped off to make this, IMO much better.

prand

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6,230 posts

219 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Infernal Affairs? I'll check it out. But I'm also surprised Scorsese could make a "dodgy" movie, haveing made some really, really good ones in the past

Saying that, from what I've heard about Shutter Island, which sounds like a big name star OTT B-movie, then perhaps he's losing touch a bit.

scorp

8,783 posts

252 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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prand said:
Infernal Affairs? I'll check it out. But I'm also surprised Scorsese could make a "dodgy" movie, haveing made some really, really good ones in the past

Saying that, from what I've heard about Shutter Island, which sounds like a big name star OTT B-movie, then perhaps he's losing touch a bit.
The American 'ripoff' version is a very good film imho.

Pesty

42,655 posts

279 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Yes it is a good film, a very good film.


Frankeh

12,558 posts

208 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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It's absolutely brilliant.
I saw it without knowing anything about it.
I find that if a film gets tons of praise and people recommend it to you then you'll be looking for fault immediately.

Because of this I now go into 90% of films knowing nothing about them.

In the past year astro boy is the only film I've come out of feeling screwed.

amir_j

3,579 posts

224 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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prand said:
I finally watched The Departed last night. It has been out for a while, and comes highly recommended. But although it had a pretty good buildup, some really great characters (Nicholson seemed to be enjoying himself a bit too much!), and it was gripping and involving, it didn't really work for me as a Top Film of of the 21st century.

Without going into the details too much, I felt too much of the plot was confused and contrived, and very hammy, and after the requisite Scorscese bloodbath at the end I was left with a rather empty feeling as if there was nothing (and nobody) left. Maybe that was the point, but I didn't get it.

What do people think?
Agree completely, watched in cinema & left feeling underwhelmed.

prand

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Monday 15th March 2010
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Frankeh said:
It's absolutely brilliant.
I saw it without knowing anything about it.
I find that if a film gets tons of praise and people recommend it to you then you'll be looking for fault immediately.

Because of this I now go into 90% of films knowing nothing about them.

In the past year astro boy is the only film I've come out of feeling screwed.
I know exactly what you mean by having your expectations taint the viewing of a film - it's like having read a book version first -very rarely do they match up.

But I didn't really know anything about The Departed before I watched it. All I knew was that it had been directed by Scorsese and was recommended on Lovefilm.

I suppose I might have been hoping for an epic Goodfellas/Casino/Raging Bull/Taxi Driver level of quality, The Departed didn't seem anywhere in the same league.

I'm not sure what it was, it just seemed messy. There were a lot of happy coincidences and some daft assumptions by characters to force the plot along and quite a few events which didn't seem to add up. And by the end (SPOILER COMING) virtually every significant character has managed to kill each other, which I just though was a bit odd and out of place, and didn't leave much of an ending (except perhaps allowing Mark Wahlberg to ride off into the sunset with the pregnant psychiatrist?). Not really like the shocking and thought provoking twist that Taxi Driver provided for instance.

wy906

3,169 posts

197 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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prand said:
Frankeh said:
It's absolutely brilliant.
I saw it without knowing anything about it.
I find that if a film gets tons of praise and people recommend it to you then you'll be looking for fault immediately.

Because of this I now go into 90% of films knowing nothing about them.

In the past year astro boy is the only film I've come out of feeling screwed.
I know exactly what you mean by having your expectations taint the viewing of a film - it's like having read a book version first -very rarely do they match up.

But I didn't really know anything about The Departed before I watched it. All I knew was that it had been directed by Scorsese and was recommended on Lovefilm.

I suppose I might have been hoping for an epic Goodfellas/Casino/Raging Bull/Taxi Driver level of quality, The Departed didn't seem anywhere in the same league.

I'm not sure what it was, it just seemed messy. There were a lot of happy coincidences and some daft assumptions by characters to force the plot along and quite a few events which didn't seem to add up. And by the end (SPOILER COMING) virtually every significant character has managed to kill each other, which I just though was a bit odd and out of place, and didn't leave much of an ending (except perhaps allowing Mark Wahlberg to ride off into the sunset with the pregnant psychiatrist?). Not really like the shocking and thought provoking twist that Taxi Driver provided for instance.
Watch Infernal Affairs I. (II & III are very good but IMO Pt. I is more relavent to The Departed)

The Departed is very good and had very good cast , but I much prefer the origional.

I watched the whole series of Infernal Affairs prior to The Departed, and I was born in H.K. so I may be biased. smile

Dare2Fail

3,808 posts

231 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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I watched The Departed after I had seen Infernal Affairs 1 & 2 (2 is the superior film imho) and felt a bit let down. Had I not seen Infernal Affairs I'm sure I would have thought it was brilliant. I wouldn't say it is a bad film by any stretch, but i'd rather watch Infernal Affairs again rather The Departed.

MiniMan64

18,868 posts

213 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Great film!

I like the fact everyone dies in the end, it's nice to have a different ending from the norm or what you'd expect. Same reason I like Terminator 3 (although that is a bad film).