Speed humps
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leszekg

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263 posts

296 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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The rumoured speed humps are finally being installed in our village. The first 2 of about 30 in various roads have just gone in. Drove over them (very slowly) today and heard the dreaded crunching sound under the Cerbera.

This doesn't bode well. If they all end up like this I won't be able to leave the village! Anyone experienced this and if so do you know who to complain to?

page3

5,190 posts

280 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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Makes my blood boil - but cannot help you I'm afraid. I find one wheel on the hump and one on the pavement can work for me.

(Went to TGI Friday's last week. Had a cocktail called TVR! Told the waiter I'd have shown him a real one, but I was parked down the road as the humps across their car park were HUGE!)

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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Well...complaining now is like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted I'm afraid.

BUT. I, too, have been involved in a campaign to get a set of humps removed...so here are a few suggestions.

1) www.abd.org.uk - and check out the speed humps section

2) Form a local campaign group. Get a petition going.

3) Complain to your local councillor - first stop I'd suggest.

4) Check the legality of the hump design - many humps are too high or have too steep a gradient. For example our local humps had to be modified as the design was suitable for a 20 zone and the limit was 30!


When you deal with professionals its best not to rant. Simply present the fact that you have a Type Approved vehicle and you cannot get over the speed humps at the speed limit without damaging the car.

Should your car be damaged be sure to sue the council. Enough cases and they'll think twice about these bloody things...

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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They have put some in on a bit of a shortcut on my commute.

First they were fairly restrainted tarmac coated humps, bit of a pain in the arse but liveable. Then after about 3 months they came and dug up the humps they had just put down and replaced them with bloody great coping stone built ornamental walls.

Then since doing this work the tarmac around them has started to collapse. So you drive over them, the wheels go into the potholes and you cant get over them without bashing something.

Leave the roads alone, spend the money on hospitals FFS

rude girl

6,937 posts

288 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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Get plenty of people to complain (and in writing). The walls that the council built in our High Street were rebuilt so that they are now negotiable.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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We're engaged in a similar fight in Nottingham. What I didn't realise, but was pointed out by one of the local undertakers, is that it must be possible, if a street has a 30mph limit, to do 30mph, not just average 30mph. This is the course of action that we're following at the moment, because hearses are longer than normal vehicles, and tend to have their exhausts ripped off by these bumps.

Good Luck.

leszekg

Original Poster:

263 posts

296 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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Thanks everyone. Didn't realise it was quite such a disease!

leszekg

Original Poster:

263 posts

296 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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[quote=Don]Well...complaining now is like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted I'm afraid.

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The residents of the village were not consulted so we only got wind of this as work was preparing to start. Only the local school knew about this apparently.

WildfireS3

9,946 posts

281 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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I have a list of places I can't go due to humps. These include the train station, and a load of motorway services.

granville

18,764 posts

290 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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Don is right.

Attempt to get even, not mad which is of course difficult when you've just deflowered a carbon chin designed to scoop air, not solid tarmac.

Which insect came up with the idea? Peasnt(s).

jeremyc

28,030 posts

313 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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In the meantime, make sure you accelerate maximally between the humps. Hopefully the residents will get fed up with the increased noise, but more importantly it might make you feel a little better.

Its the only solace I find in this increasingly maddening world.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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derestrictor said:
Don is right.



I am seldom wrong, Esteemed Sahib.


derestrictor said:

Which insect came up with the idea? Peasnt(s).



Attack. Attack.

Speed humps are:
a) Bad for the environment due to brake/accelerate
b) Bad for cars travelling over them
c) Bad for road safety
- attention on humps not road
- people attempting to steer around them
- motorcyclists travelling in between them (if the "cushion" type (what a misnomer)
- dramatic effect one some cars, minimal on others causing dangerous appropriate speed differentials
- dangerous for cyclists as cars don't want to give them enough room whilst trying to avoid humps
- bad for emergency services travelling over them (ambulances - not police cars)

d) They are absolutely proven to reduce 85th percentile speed.

Sorry. Its true. They work at speed reduction.

But they DO make life shit for everyone. Difficult to explain to the speed Nazis you'd rather have a nicer life and no humps and let people travel a bit quicker through the village than the unpleasant side effects of this evil speed reduction device...

>> Edited by Don on Wednesday 18th February 10:52

z_chromozone

1,436 posts

278 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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Check out the legal hight of the humps and the design, if you damage your car they will be liable. Newport Pagnell had to change their illegal humps when the bus company refused to drive over them. This came at a cost of £100,000's.

Z

leszekg

Original Poster:

263 posts

296 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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jeremyc said:
In the meantime, make sure you accelerate maximally between the humps. Hopefully the residents will get fed up with the increased noise, but more importantly it might make you feel a little better.


Yep, did it this morning between the two humps that are already there about 100 yards apart. Lovely smooth wet surface saw the car snaking it's way along nicely much to the amusement of the workers at the side of the road. Unfortunatley, it didn't make me feel any better.

John Mac

386 posts

292 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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Speed humps - an absolute nightmare at times !!
Firstly, if the humps have been laid you will have one hell of a job trying to get anyone to listen regarding there removal.
A few pointers to look at.
1. The government has a Statutory document on the legislation, design and rulings on these matters,I recently only deleted the web page but a search can bring it up.
2.Before they go down, the police , ambulance and fire brigade are to be consulted and advised of their location in case they object. In my area, the ambulance service are now complaining - talk about closing the stable door !!
3. The maximum legal height at the centre is to be no more than 100mm and the front edge no more than 5mm high before the slope.
4.Signs MUST be displayed advising that SPEED HUMPS are fitted ahead.
5.Different "style" humps are permitted in different locations ie before a Pedestrian crossing.
The Document goes on and on about this subject and each location is individual.
Some individuals have claimed from the Council damage caused to their exhaust but I think only one claim has been publicly acknowledged (they may want to keep it low profile because of Court/ claim costs)
I understand that where I am some traffic calming measures ( as they like to call them ) are actually being removed, and the Government recently stated that many were illegal and would be removed by the contractor at his cost, something I can't believe.
Good luck with your problem, but like me you may have to find a route around them.
By the way, humps on Private property are a completely different ball game, ie to Golf clubs, Car parks etc. etc. - more or less anything goes but you should still have the notice ahead of them.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

284 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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When you have a spare few hours drive onto one of these speed humps. Drive correctly, i.e. don't drive to one side. Stop when your car bottoms, turn you engine off, engage hazard flashers and wait till the authorities turn up.

You have every right to drive on these roads so when they advise you how to get off the hump, do so and turn up the next day and do it again.

Probably get you nowhere but it'll make a point.

john mac

386 posts

292 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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Brilliant - if only I had the guts to do it !!

sidpinup

1,006 posts

284 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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I slowed down for a speed hump oustide a school the other day and as I slowly rolled over the bump in question a bloody RangeRover came storming up behind and swerved around me, not slowing at all for the speed hump and I guess he was doing 40-50mph. Safe as anything 4x4's.

Batty S4C

12,268 posts

279 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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its ok, all the local 'S' series will take car of the hump after a couple off passes!
bloody low exhaust

john mac

386 posts

292 months

Wednesday 18th February 2004
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How about the mechanical digger driver who lowered his bucket and scooped one up!! claimed he thought it was a pile of tarmac lying dangerously in the road and was only doing a favour !!!
Didn't get away with it and was fined for malicious damage.
Nice try though.