Fiesta MK4 1.3 Brakes
Fiesta MK4 1.3 Brakes
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Scott330ci

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18,264 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Morning Guys

I purchased a 1.3 fezza a few weeks ago and at the minute, you have to plan your braking. I went out yesterday, purchased some new discs and pads for the front, removed the old set to find there was plenty of disc and pad. I changed the disc anyway (as the monkey gave me some brembo's) well actually, only one because I rounded the nut on the other - thats a different story - I'll sort the other tonight.

Anyway - I assume the brakes more than likely need bleeding because of the spongyness to them. I have a rough idea of what needs to be done ... chap in car, pump brakes, loosen bleed nipple to lose air out of system - repeat for each side.

Would air in the system cause the symptoms mentioned?

Also changed the air filter, rocker cover gasket, plugs - I feel like a fully qualified mechanic if it wasn't for that bloody bolt that rounded frown

Thanks

Scott

ALY77

666 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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I have a Mk5 as a run about and the brakes aren't great but ok. Air in beside the brake fluid makes the pedal spongy, air in beside the brake fluid doesn't make you round off nuts smile

I take it you mean the disc retaining bolt? Drill the head off and forget about it, its only a locating screw, the wheel nuts hold it on when the wheel is on.

Scott330ci

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18,264 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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ALY77 said:
I take it you mean the disc retaining bolt? Drill the head off and forget about it, its only a locating screw,
Im not so sure it is as I cant get the disc off.

I'll grab a pic tonight

p.s well aware air in the system doesn't round nuts wink

ALY77

666 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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The disc should have four holes for the wheel bolts and one or two torx headed bolts on face that the wheel presses against. Those are holding the disc in place for you while the wheel is off but its the four large wheel bolts that are holding the disc in place when the brake pedal is pushed, not the little bolt or two. Is doesn't have to be there but if you do want to replace it, drill the head off, take the disc off and use pliers or mole grips to try an twist the remaining shaft of the screw off.

Scott330ci

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18,264 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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ALY77 said:
The disc should have four holes for the wheel bolts and one or two torx headed bolts on face that the wheel presses against. Those are holding the disc in place for you while the wheel is off but its the four large wheel bolts that are holding the disc in place when the brake pedal is pushed, not the little bolt or two. Is doesn't have to be there but if you do want to replace it, drill the head off, take the disc off and use pliers or mole grips to try an twist the remaining shaft of the screw off.
OK Mate - thanks for the help

I have purchased a new bolt so will keep you updated

Scott

ALY77

666 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Good stuff.

You might want to hammer head a bit before you drill it to try and loosen the grip the rust has in the threads and WD40 the shaft as best you can before trying to turn it with pliers or grips.

Scott330ci

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227 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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ALY77 said:
Good stuff.

You might want to hammer head a bit before you drill it to try and loosen the grip the rust has in the threads and WD40 the shaft as best you can before trying to turn it with pliers or grips.
Roger that ...

Gareth350

1,557 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Scott330ci said:
ALY77 said:
Good stuff.

You might want to hammer head a bit before you drill it to try and loosen the grip the rust has in the threads and WD40 the shaft as best you can before trying to turn it with pliers or grips.
Roger that ...
Dont think that will help the situation!! rofl

ALY77

666 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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No, nor will putting WD40 on the wrong shaft, but I think he's got the gist of the job in hand!

Scott330ci

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18,264 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Morning chaps

The bolt I rounded had to come off ... It was a bracket that held the disc on so even though it could be pulled foward, you couldn't get it past the retaining braket.

No bother, after me shouting a swearing at it for an hour on monday night my mechanic friend removed the offending item in around 30 seconds.

I fitted the new discs and went out for a run and the braking was still shocking - trip to the local motor factors, brake fuild purchased, bled the two front and we now have a decent set of stoppers!!!

Thanks for your help guys - happy ending all round

Scott

alfettagtv2000

220 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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I've never owned a ford with decent brakes, they're all crap...

Zad

12,970 posts

262 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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alfettagtv2000 said:
I've never owned a ford with decent brakes, they're all crap...
rolleyes

ALY77

666 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Ah, yes, you would need to replace that or the caliper would be all over the place which is bad.

As for all Fords having rubbish brakes, mine have all ranged from ok to very good indeed. Go drive a black cab then talk to me about rubbish brakes!

eliotrw

309 posts

195 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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zad i disagree, i have a mk4 fiesta q.25 with new brakes lines new pads new discs etc, and tbh a 10 ish year old kid is lucky i service my cars because it stops DEAD with all that (kid ran out of parked cars a couple of days ago, you should see the black lines on the road, they were there at least a week)


thing is about my car, is that theres a sort of feel to the pedal that means that pushing about 80% is like half as effective as alll the way were the pedal gets very stiff, so if you didnt mash your foot down that little bit harder you wouldnt even know that braking power was there, seriously though i went 40 to 0 in the space of about <30 metres so i would call my cars braking crap, especially in comparison to cars of the same type and age