HMRC SCAM
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Vipers

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33,480 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Beware of receiving an email like this :--

From: "HM Revenue & Customs" <securemail@hmrc.gov.uk>


Tax Refund Notification



After the last annual calculations of your fiscal activity, we have determined that you are eligible to receive a tax refund of 988.50 GBP. Please submit the tax refund request and allow us 2-3 days in order to process it.



Click Here to submit your tax refund request

Note : A refund can be delayed a variety of reasons, for example submitting invalid records or applying after deadline.

Best Regards

HM Revenue & Customs




When you click on the word "Here" it takes you to the logos of banks, when you click on your bank, the log in page is exactly as it would be if you were on a secure site, but the HTTPS is missing the S.

I called the revenue, they are aware of the scam, and advised me to pass it onto them on

phishing@hmrc.gov.uk

The email was received this morning.


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Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

278 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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thanks

crmcatee

5,800 posts

254 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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You've really got to be a Darwin candidate to believe anything like that that comes in on your email.

Ever think how the HMRC got your email address ? No - we'll since they've sent it on to them - they've got it now.

maser_spyder

6,356 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Vipers said:
Best Regards

HM Revenue & Customs
That should be enough.

They would never say 'Best Regards', would they?

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

279 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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not a scam...idiot tax.

soad

34,495 posts

203 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Cheers for the heads up but I heard of this type of scam before, OP.

Some examples below:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

perdu

4,885 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Tiggsy said:
not a scam...idiot tax.
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Neil H

15,418 posts

278 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Gmail is good as it automatically puts these mails in the spam folder, with a big warning across the top.

Vipers

Original Poster:

33,480 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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crmcatee said:
You've really got to be a Darwin candidate to believe anything like that that comes in on your email.
Agree but it catches a lot of people out. Discussing this at work today, amazing how many didnt know about the HTTPS. Lets face it, how many get caught out with "Oh you have won the Canadian lottery, send £100 to process it", doesn't even enter their little grey cells they didnt buy a ticket in the first place.

crmcatee said:
Ever think how the HMRC got your email address ? No - we'll since they've sent it on to them - they've got it now.
Didn't quite get you last bit, its not HMRC who had my email address, its the scammers. The fact that the real HMRC has it now, no worries at all.




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Vipers

Original Poster:

33,480 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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soad said:
Cheers for the heads up but I heard of this type of scam before, OP.

Some examples below:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Same scam............same wording, same address.




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CampDavid

9,145 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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crmcatee said:
You've really got to be a Darwin candidate to believe anything like that that comes in on your email.

Ever think how the HMRC got your email address ? No - we'll since they've sent it on to them - they've got it now.
Unless your tax return has an e-mail address on?

You'd be amazed at what people fall for. Half of them are so blasé because they think scams only catch idiots and forget that the HMRC don't issue tax refunds by e-mail

perdu

4,885 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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CampDavid said:
crmcatee said:
You've really got to be a Darwin candidate to believe anything like that that comes in on your email.

Ever think how the HMRC got your email address ? No - we'll since they've sent it on to them - they've got it now.
Unless your tax return has an e-mail address on?

You'd be amazed at what people fall for. Half of them are so blasé because they think scams only catch idiots and forget that the HMRC don't issue tax refunds by e-mail
Blimey

they STILL give tax refunds back?


soad

34,495 posts

203 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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perdu said:
Blimey

they STILL give tax refunds back?
In a word - Yes.

bonsai

2,015 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Neil H said:
Gmail is good as it automatically puts these mails in the spam folder, with a big warning across the top.
I have gmail.

Unfortunately its filters aren't good enough to stop these scam threads appearing though.

Eric Mc

125,322 posts

292 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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perdu said:
CampDavid said:
crmcatee said:
You've really got to be a Darwin candidate to believe anything like that that comes in on your email.

Ever think how the HMRC got your email address ? No - we'll since they've sent it on to them - they've got it now.
Unless your tax return has an e-mail address on?

You'd be amazed at what people fall for. Half of them are so blasé because they think scams only catch idiots and forget that the HMRC don't issue tax refunds by e-mail
Blimey

they STILL give tax refunds back?
Why should they hang on to something that isn't legally theirs.

Too right they give overpaid tax back - and give them hell if they seem to be hanging on to any overpaid tax inordinately long.

Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 16th March 13:42

Vipers

Original Poster:

33,480 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Why should they hang on to something that isn't legally theirs.

Too right they give overpaid tax back - and give them hell if they seem to be hanging on to any overpaid tax inordinately long.
Eric,

Think I should give them stick over the 3p they owe me laugh


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Hedders

24,460 posts

274 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Why should they hang on to something that isn't legally theirs.
Yeah, it's not like our government is going to try and shaft us for some extra tax..



Vipers

Original Poster:

33,480 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Why should they hang on to something that isn't legally theirs.

Too right they give overpaid tax back - and give them hell if they seem to be hanging on to any overpaid tax inordinately long.
Eric,

Think I should give them stick over the 3p they owe me laugh


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Tiggsy

10,261 posts

279 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Vipers said:
Discussing this at work today, amazing how many didnt know about the HTTPS.
Whats that got to do with it? I have no idea what HTTPS is but i know a stupid scan when i see it.....if a mad mad is running at me waving an axe and screaming he will kill me i run away.....i dont need to spot that his dilated pupils mean he's off his head!

Vipers

Original Poster:

33,480 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Tiggsy said:
Vipers said:
Discussing this at work today, amazing how many didnt know about the HTTPS.
Whats that got to do with it? I have no idea what HTTPS is but i know a stupid scan when i see it.....if a mad mad is running at me waving an axe and screaming he will kill me i run away.....i dont need to spot that his dilated pupils mean he's off his head!
If you ever make a payment on line to anyone, even your gas bill, ensure the first part of the address in the top of the screen is HTTPS, means a secure web site.

Hense the definate give away from any scam pretending to be your bank is the "S" missing.

Look at the top of the page when you view this, and you will see http://www etc etc, when you make a secure payment it will show https://www etc etc.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Secure




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Edited by Vipers on Tuesday 16th March 15:55


Edited by Vipers on Tuesday 16th March 15:59