recommend me a computer for HD video editing
Discussion
as above really!
Looking to spend just over £1,000, so any thoughts? I use Premiere Pro CS4 and only edit in 1080p format so need something that will cope with PremPro open whilst also using After Effects. I frequently use up to 5 layers on PremPro too.
It has to be PC too, not that a MAC would get within that budget I assume
Looking to spend just over £1,000, so any thoughts? I use Premiere Pro CS4 and only edit in 1080p format so need something that will cope with PremPro open whilst also using After Effects. I frequently use up to 5 layers on PremPro too.
It has to be PC too, not that a MAC would get within that budget I assume
What effects work are you doing in AE?
What depth of chroma sampling is it? 4:2:0? 4:2:2? 4:4:4?
Do you do large amounts of 3D layer rendering with particle world etc?
What format video are you editing? avi? MPEG2? H264?
What camera is shooting the video?
How are you capturing the video to the computer?
What is the end delivery going to be?
What sound editing will you need to do?
Do you use additional cameras and lighting effects in AE?
Do you have Adobe Dynamic Link working = is this why you need to have both programs running at once?
This will give a better idea as to what machine might be needed...
What depth of chroma sampling is it? 4:2:0? 4:2:2? 4:4:4?
Do you do large amounts of 3D layer rendering with particle world etc?
What format video are you editing? avi? MPEG2? H264?
What camera is shooting the video?
How are you capturing the video to the computer?
What is the end delivery going to be?
What sound editing will you need to do?
Do you use additional cameras and lighting effects in AE?
Do you have Adobe Dynamic Link working = is this why you need to have both programs running at once?
This will give a better idea as to what machine might be needed...
sevros1981 said:
What effects work are you doing in AE?
What depth of chroma sampling is it? 4:2:0? 4:2:2? 4:4:4?
Do you do large amounts of 3D layer rendering with particle world etc?
What format video are you editing? avi? MPEG2? H264?
What camera is shooting the video?
How are you capturing the video to the computer?
What is the end delivery going to be?
What sound editing will you need to do?
Do you use additional cameras and lighting effects in AE?
Do you have Adobe Dynamic Link working = is this why you need to have both programs running at once?
This will give a better idea as to what machine might be needed...
I will try and answer, but I might not have a clue what you are talking about at this stage!What depth of chroma sampling is it? 4:2:0? 4:2:2? 4:4:4?
Do you do large amounts of 3D layer rendering with particle world etc?
What format video are you editing? avi? MPEG2? H264?
What camera is shooting the video?
How are you capturing the video to the computer?
What is the end delivery going to be?
What sound editing will you need to do?
Do you use additional cameras and lighting effects in AE?
Do you have Adobe Dynamic Link working = is this why you need to have both programs running at once?
This will give a better idea as to what machine might be needed...
We shoot in AVHCD, from a Canon HF10.
Video capture is using Canon software (USB).
End delivery is projector in cinema, at full 1080p resolution.
Sound editing, when required, is in SoundBooth.
AE is used for text effects and some title generation. Text effects are created adhoc, hence being open at the same time!
None of what your describing sounds as though it would be very taxing to a modern windows 7 machine with 64 bit and 6 or even 12GB of RAM.
Go to pcspecialist and have a looky at their custom offerings of around £1k.
Is this for a client?
Have you promised full HD resolution in the cinema? The camera you have described isn't great - whatever projector setup you use, the quality of video after compression+editing+post and then rendering for delivery will make it worse. Their are a few other cameras that I would recommend... Unless you have to shoot the job, perhaps getting someone to shoot the footage for you on a daily rate would be a good alternative?
If you want to PM me you can do - I can recommend a camera, editing format and projector for you that would be stunning. It is limited by budget, but if one link in your chain is wrong it might not be as impressive as you hoped.
Go to pcspecialist and have a looky at their custom offerings of around £1k.
Is this for a client?
Have you promised full HD resolution in the cinema? The camera you have described isn't great - whatever projector setup you use, the quality of video after compression+editing+post and then rendering for delivery will make it worse. Their are a few other cameras that I would recommend... Unless you have to shoot the job, perhaps getting someone to shoot the footage for you on a daily rate would be a good alternative?
If you want to PM me you can do - I can recommend a camera, editing format and projector for you that would be stunning. It is limited by budget, but if one link in your chain is wrong it might not be as impressive as you hoped.
sevros1981 said:
None of what your describing sounds as though it would be very taxing to a modern windows 7 machine with 64 bit and 6 or even 12GB of RAM.
Go to pcspecialist and have a looky at their custom offerings of around £1k.
Is this for a client?
Have you promised full HD resolution in the cinema? The camera you have described isn't great - whatever projector setup you use, the quality of video after compression+editing+post and then rendering for delivery will make it worse. Their are a few other cameras that I would recommend... Unless you have to shoot the job, perhaps getting someone to shoot the footage for you on a daily rate would be a good alternative?
If you want to PM me you can do - I can recommend a camera, editing format and projector for you that would be stunning. It is limited by budget, but if one link in your chain is wrong it might not be as impressive as you hoped.
Thanks, thats helpful.Go to pcspecialist and have a looky at their custom offerings of around £1k.
Is this for a client?
Have you promised full HD resolution in the cinema? The camera you have described isn't great - whatever projector setup you use, the quality of video after compression+editing+post and then rendering for delivery will make it worse. Their are a few other cameras that I would recommend... Unless you have to shoot the job, perhaps getting someone to shoot the footage for you on a daily rate would be a good alternative?
If you want to PM me you can do - I can recommend a camera, editing format and projector for you that would be stunning. It is limited by budget, but if one link in your chain is wrong it might not be as impressive as you hoped.
The problem is that media is produced every week, so hire isn't an option. Going from a lesser camera to the HF10 was very noticeable in terms of clarity and overall quality. It is at least as defined that the standard reel projector that the cinema use.
The only issue we have had is low lighting and it struggles with focusing if the background is a long way behind the person who is being filmed.
I realise that the camera isn't a pro camera, but that was working to a budget!
The projector is an infocus 5108, with a very ultra long throw lense.
I know that I am by no means very knowledgeable about media (give me sound mixing any day) but the output file is always at 1920x1080, compressed to WMV 1080p 25f. I don't have a lot to compare too, but as I said above, it compares with standard cinema projection. It helps that the speakers used are far better than standard cinema install (just not surround!)
Unless you already have it, the Canon 550D stills camera can record stunning 1080p HD images at 4:2:0 chroma sampling. It also behaves a lot more like a film camera (shallow depth of field) so you will be able to focus on foreground items whilst the background remains blurred....
It retails at around £6-700. A redrock field kit can be added with filters for extra.
The image quality that comes from HDSLR cameras is stunning. It is being used for TV, cinema and high budget corporate films
It retails at around £6-700. A redrock field kit can be added with filters for extra.
The image quality that comes from HDSLR cameras is stunning. It is being used for TV, cinema and high budget corporate films
I am not doubting the quality of that camera, but surely something which was designed from the ground up for video recording would produce better results?
I don't know the internals of either, but the HF10 is perfect for what we need, and produces clips which look immense when blown up 16m wide.
Perhaps we are just blessed that what we have works exactly how we want it too!
It might well be the weakest link in the chain, but it is not a bad limitation to have imho. We blew £30k on the desk, outboard and speaker setup and it all complements what we do perfectly. We are not showing 30 minute clips, rather 5 min (max) segments which may help.
I don't know the internals of either, but the HF10 is perfect for what we need, and produces clips which look immense when blown up 16m wide.
Perhaps we are just blessed that what we have works exactly how we want it too!
It might well be the weakest link in the chain, but it is not a bad limitation to have imho. We blew £30k on the desk, outboard and speaker setup and it all complements what we do perfectly. We are not showing 30 minute clips, rather 5 min (max) segments which may help.
CR0X said:
I am not doubting the quality of that camera, but surely something which was designed from the ground up for video recording would produce better results?
Nope.Just have a search around for HDSLR video on the internet and look at how it behaves in low light and with someone to adjust the focus properly. It really does make most video cameras that are anything up to £8k look very normal. The Canon 5D MkII has the capability to shoot at full frame 35mm with a firmware upgrade too. I doubted at first, but after a few videos compared with an XLH1 it looks amazing.
The most amazing thing is the shallow depth of field that you achieve - it looks just like film. Without a DOF upgrade, most HDV and HD cams will autofocus and try to have everything looking flat and glass-like.
have a look at the film examples at the bottom of this page.....
http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/hdslrs-for...
sevros1981 said:
Unless you already have it, the Canon 550D stills camera can record stunning 1080p HD images at 4:2:0 chroma sampling. It also behaves a lot more like a film camera (shallow depth of field) so you will be able to focus on foreground items whilst the background remains blurred....
It retails at around £6-700. A redrock field kit can be added with filters for extra.
The image quality that comes from HDSLR cameras is stunning. It is being used for TV, cinema and high budget corporate films
I'd second this on the DSLR (although I've never seen any used on TV work) but had a demo of a Canon 5D MK2 at a trade show recently and it was really nice. The biggest win being the quality of the lens which makes a huge difference. I have the Canon HF10 at home, and it's nice, but not anywhere as good as the DSLR route.It retails at around £6-700. A redrock field kit can be added with filters for extra.
The image quality that comes from HDSLR cameras is stunning. It is being used for TV, cinema and high budget corporate films
Also how do you plan to play the footage out?
Edited by theboyfold on Wednesday 17th March 14:37
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