work this one out!
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Some of you regular LeMans-ers will remember the crash I was in in 2006.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
My mate was driving my car and it turned out that his full comp insurer didn't cover him 3rd party on other cars. So check yours out! But that's not why I'm posting.
I've read so many reports on here at the fines you guys have picked up for speeding and having camera detectors etc, yet the legal outcome of our crash 3 years later was pathetic in comparison.
My mate was clearly driving without due care and also failed to give way to the right, which can still catch you out, so be careful. How much was he fined?...........£400 and 6 months suspended sentence. Work that out.
Some of you have picked up £1000 fines and haven't even been involved in an incident!
This just shows you how hot they're getting out there since 2006. If that crash happened now, I reckon he'd be doing porridge. Watch it!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
My mate was driving my car and it turned out that his full comp insurer didn't cover him 3rd party on other cars. So check yours out! But that's not why I'm posting.
I've read so many reports on here at the fines you guys have picked up for speeding and having camera detectors etc, yet the legal outcome of our crash 3 years later was pathetic in comparison.
My mate was clearly driving without due care and also failed to give way to the right, which can still catch you out, so be careful. How much was he fined?...........£400 and 6 months suspended sentence. Work that out.
Some of you have picked up £1000 fines and haven't even been involved in an incident!
This just shows you how hot they're getting out there since 2006. If that crash happened now, I reckon he'd be doing porridge. Watch it!
That priority from the right rule really needs to go 
Typical stupid Euro rule, but so dangerous 
I hope your doing OK, as you said that was a very bad accident
As for insurance, my policy is the same, I'm fully comp but am not covered to drive other cars on 'That' policy, even 3rd party cover
Typical stupid Euro rule, but so dangerous I hope your doing OK, as you said that was a very bad accident
As for insurance, my policy is the same, I'm fully comp but am not covered to drive other cars on 'That' policy, even 3rd party cover
Hi Lewis,
The priority to the right rule came about many moons ago for the benefit of farm traffic. In a nut shell, on certain roads you must give way to a vehicle pulling onto it from the right. This can be on the most unlikely road, where you're doing 50mph when all of a sudden someone justs comes straight across your path! It is insane and if someone did it to you in Britain, there would be a punch up.
In the Cities and big towns it has just about disappeared, but not everywhere.
Look up French road signs online and if you can, memorise them. It could save you big trouble. The 'priority a droit' signs are yellow diamonds with a white border and same again with a black line through it.
The priority to the right rule came about many moons ago for the benefit of farm traffic. In a nut shell, on certain roads you must give way to a vehicle pulling onto it from the right. This can be on the most unlikely road, where you're doing 50mph when all of a sudden someone justs comes straight across your path! It is insane and if someone did it to you in Britain, there would be a punch up.
In the Cities and big towns it has just about disappeared, but not everywhere.
Look up French road signs online and if you can, memorise them. It could save you big trouble. The 'priority a droit' signs are yellow diamonds with a white border and same again with a black line through it.
OK pulled this information straight out of a 'French for Travellers' information guide
Unless otherwise indicated, cars entering from the right have priority over traffic going straight on
This normally applies to rural roads and those small villages you go through AND the roads inside the circuit at Le mans! So in a nutshell that car pulling out straight in front of you from that little road to your right HAS PRIORITY
Be very careful!
Unless otherwise indicated, cars entering from the right have priority over traffic going straight on
This normally applies to rural roads and those small villages you go through AND the roads inside the circuit at Le mans! So in a nutshell that car pulling out straight in front of you from that little road to your right HAS PRIORITY
Be very careful!
bernhund said:
Hi Lewis,
The priority to the right rule came about many moons ago for the benefit of farm traffic. In a nut shell, on certain roads you must give way to a vehicle pulling onto it from the right. This can be on the most unlikely road, where you're doing 50mph when all of a sudden someone justs comes straight across your path! It is insane and if someone did it to you in Britain, there would be a punch up.
In the Cities and big towns it has just about disappeared, but not everywhere.
Look up French road signs online and if you can, memorise them. It could save you big trouble. The 'priority a droit' signs are yellow diamonds with a white border and same again with a black line through it.
Thanks for the reminder bernhund. The priority to the right rule came about many moons ago for the benefit of farm traffic. In a nut shell, on certain roads you must give way to a vehicle pulling onto it from the right. This can be on the most unlikely road, where you're doing 50mph when all of a sudden someone justs comes straight across your path! It is insane and if someone did it to you in Britain, there would be a punch up.
In the Cities and big towns it has just about disappeared, but not everywhere.
Look up French road signs online and if you can, memorise them. It could save you big trouble. The 'priority a droit' signs are yellow diamonds with a white border and same again with a black line through it.
That year, I was in Houx and heard your accident over the camp wall. Glad you've recovered. I'll be keeping an eye out for those signs indeed this year.
I've luckly had a 'right priority extreme brake near miss' episide only once so far since I've been going to LM since 2001, but once is enough!
That was while passing through a small village, and I could not believe he came sailing out of a Minor road onto a Major one(my road)...crazy!
fatboy18 said:
Unless otherwise indicated, cars entering from the right have priority over traffic going straight on
This normally applies to rural roads and those small villages you go through AND the roads inside the circuit at Le mans! So in a nutshell that car pulling out straight in front of you from that little road to your right HAS PRIORITY
This also accounts for my one main 'mars bar' moment on the way back from Le Mans on the N138 one year....This normally applies to rural roads and those small villages you go through AND the roads inside the circuit at Le mans! So in a nutshell that car pulling out straight in front of you from that little road to your right HAS PRIORITY
Two Westfields line astern (me in front) were overtaking a couple of lorries at 'some' mph....
As we were about to pull back to the right, I saw, at the bottom of the longish hill we were going down, a small yellow La Poste van appear at a side turning, which then pulled out onto the main road in front of us.
"No problem" thinks I, "we'll be past him in no time", so foot kept hard down (not least because braking hard wasn't an option with another car glued to the back of ours....) and continued with the over-take.
And then a small, blue Renault Clio came round the bend at the bottom of the hill and was heading towards us....
At this point, the La Poste van eased right, the Clio driver did the same, and we went zapping through the gap in the middle, laughing (hysterically) like fools and then suffering heart palpitations....
I can look back on it now and laugh (non-hysterically...) but it had the potential to be ugly.
fatboy18 said:
OK pulled this information straight out of a 'French for Travellers' information guide
Unless otherwise indicated, cars entering from the right have priority over traffic going straight on
This normally applies to rural roads and those small villages you go through AND the roads inside the circuit at Le mans! So in a nutshell that car pulling out straight in front of you from that little road to your right HAS PRIORITY
Be very careful!
I love priorite a droite.Unless otherwise indicated, cars entering from the right have priority over traffic going straight on
This normally applies to rural roads and those small villages you go through AND the roads inside the circuit at Le mans! So in a nutshell that car pulling out straight in front of you from that little road to your right HAS PRIORITY
Be very careful!
Theres a bar in the town where my folks live with one of these junctions outside. Its quite fun to while away a couple of hours on a sunny afternoon watching the French have no idea how to operate the rule, let alone anyone else. The number of near misses is huge. Surprised I've never seem a smash...
[quote]Look up French road signs online and if you can, memorise them. It could save you big trouble. The 'priority a droit' signs are yellow diamonds with a white border and same again with a black line through it.
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That isn't exactly correct.
This sign signals that at the next intersection, there is a priorité a droite.
This sign (route prioritaire) as you rightly point out, means that you are on a prioity route where there will not be any priorité a droite. Mostly used on dual caridge ways and large a roads.
It's opposite (fin de route prioritaire) means that individual signing at each intersection applies.
This often means there is a mixture of the priorite a droite signs and this sign, which shows that roads on to yours will have to give way:
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That isn't exactly correct.
This sign signals that at the next intersection, there is a priorité a droite.
This sign (route prioritaire) as you rightly point out, means that you are on a prioity route where there will not be any priorité a droite. Mostly used on dual caridge ways and large a roads.
It's opposite (fin de route prioritaire) means that individual signing at each intersection applies.
This often means there is a mixture of the priorite a droite signs and this sign, which shows that roads on to yours will have to give way:
fatboy18 said:
Sorry but that is still confusing
Tis a bit, but fortunately I have a French colleague so I asked her.- X sign = priority a droite
- yellow diamond = main road has priority
- yellow sign with black stripe through it - not any more - beware !
- 'crossroad sign' - look out, because it could be either
But, a lot of side roads onto main roads also have 'STOP' signs, where the side road traffic is forced to give way, or it might be a "Cedez le Passage" (give way) sign instead, like at roundabouts.
Hope that helps a bit.
Hello Arthur, I remember your contributions to the original post! And Fatboys on the 2nd post when I discovered Pistonheads a year later! http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
It certainly was bad news that crash. I'm just coming to the end of the dentistry costs now(£6500) and still wearing a retaining brace. I've got a hip replacement to come and I'm definitly nowhere near as fit as I used to be. Do you know if there were any other chat forums out there talking about it? It's still good for me to collect information even now.
By the way, the change in the priority rule has been very hard for the older French people to accept, so they will pull out in front of you anyway.So hoofing it down the road knowing it's your right of way and someone pulling out will still happen. They might have broken the law, but that's no good to you if you end up in a box.
I'm not the converted preaching here. I went and bought a Noble as soon as I could walk again, but just telling you to be extra careful out there.
It certainly was bad news that crash. I'm just coming to the end of the dentistry costs now(£6500) and still wearing a retaining brace. I've got a hip replacement to come and I'm definitly nowhere near as fit as I used to be. Do you know if there were any other chat forums out there talking about it? It's still good for me to collect information even now.
By the way, the change in the priority rule has been very hard for the older French people to accept, so they will pull out in front of you anyway.So hoofing it down the road knowing it's your right of way and someone pulling out will still happen. They might have broken the law, but that's no good to you if you end up in a box.
I'm not the converted preaching here. I went and bought a Noble as soon as I could walk again, but just telling you to be extra careful out there.
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