Alcohol vs Drugs
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susanq

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638 posts

202 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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With today's calls for mephedrone to be made illegal due to 2 deaths allegedly linked to this drug, why haven't they outlawed alcohol with its 9 thousand+ related deaths per year? Surely, people must accept responsibility for their own actions when taking drugs or drinking alcohol. Or smoking? Or driving a big lump of metal at breakneck speeds?

Devilstreak

8,088 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Why?

Tax

ProfessorPeach

616 posts

198 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Alcohol.

You should have made this a poll, you pillock.

defblade

8,023 posts

240 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Alochol is a drug.

DaveL485

2,768 posts

224 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Devilstreak said:
Why?

Tax
This.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

244 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Why don't they ban cars? They cause thousands of serious injuries and deaths every year. Nearly as many as hospitals.

Joking aside, there's a difference of what is considered socially acceptable- it's not just a question of what is technically better or worse for someone's health. Alcohol has been a part of life for thousands of years, as has smoking. An outright ban when such a high percentage of the population partake in something is not always going to work.


susanq

Original Poster:

638 posts

202 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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ProfessorPeach said:
Alcohol.

You should have made this a poll, you pillock.
Why the name calling? Prat.

onlynik

4,172 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Devilstreak said:
Why?

Tax
Yes, exactly.

To quote the late great Bill Hicks.

Bill Hicks said:
That's what I hate about the war on drugs. All day long we see those commercials: "Here's your brain, here's your brain on drugs", "Just Say No", "Why do you think they call it dope?" … And then the next commercial is [singing] "This Bud's for yooouuuu." C'mon, everybody, let's be hypocritical bds. It's okay to drink your drug. We meant those other drugs. Those untaxed drugs. Those are the ones that are bad for you.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

276 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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10 Pence Short said:
Alcohol has been a part of life for thousands of years, as has smoking.
as have a lot of other substances

alman

796 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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People say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug its a drink.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

244 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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sleep envy said:
10 Pence Short said:
Alcohol has been a part of life for thousands of years, as has smoking.
as have a lot of other substances
Of course. But have they been taken up in the same way by such a high percentage of the populations? It's such a complex subject because it's not just supply that affects usage, but also things like religion in certain parts of the world.

In the Western World a huge percentage of the population take alcohol and the effects on society in the main are not that ill compared to the effects of other drugs. For every scene of lairy saturday nights watching neanderthals fighting in A+E departments, there are millions of people having a social drink at home or otherwise causing no problem whatsoever.

Attacks on alcohol use are often by people who like another, illegal substance that's in the spotlight, who feel aggrieved that their pasttime is being picked on unjustly.

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

278 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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alman said:
People say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug its a drink.
errrrrr, yes it is.

Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

216 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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alman said:
People say alcohol's a drug. It's not a drug its a drink.
Okaaaaay, Cocaine isn't a drug, its a powder.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

276 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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10 Pence Short said:
Attacks on alcohol use are often by people who like another, illegal substance that's in the spotlight, who feel aggrieved that their pasttime is being picked on unjustly.
undoubtedly so

just appears odd that just because it's become a 'social norm' it's accepted with the effects getting swept under the carpet so other substances can be targeted through misinformation and ignorance


Gun

13,432 posts

245 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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The main reason is that the sale of alcohol doesn't fund serious crime whereas the sale of drugs does.

NerveAgent

3,812 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Its just the social norm. Your average anti-drug enthusiast types dont even see alcohol as a drug...never mind the fact that it is a very powerful drug and would undoubtedly be class A if it was 'discovered' today.

elster

17,517 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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How dare you think people should be allowed to think for themselves and make their own judgement on things.

If certain drugs were to be legalised for recreational use then there would be standards that had to be maintained, there would be no deaths from dodgy drugs. Only through drug abuse and their effects on the body will they occur. Same as alcohol, less than tobacco possibly.

It also would be a huge tax earning. Think of how much tax is made on alcohol and to a lesser extent cigarettes. If you could add one of the largest industries in the world that would cut the deficit.

However no government would ever do that, due to the social stigma that has been created over the 20th century it would be political suicide.

I don't see much difference between alcohol and drugs, same family of recreation enjoyment.

alman

796 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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Brass Eye btw

elster

17,517 posts

237 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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alman said:
Brass Eye btw
Are you on cake?

Mr Darcy

1,006 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th March 2010
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elster said:
alman said:
Brass Eye btw
Are you on cake?
How about a clarky cap?