The Case for a Cost/Benefit Analysis for European Inclusion
The Case for a Cost/Benefit Analysis for European Inclusion
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TDIPLC

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5,069 posts

234 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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I caught the tail end of Lord Pearson on Radio 4 this morning http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_857500...

It seems that there is tri-party resistance to a review or a cost/benefit analysis of our inclusion in Europe.

Bearing in mind the current economic circumstances and the cost of our £120bn per year contribution to Brussels, perhaps if we stopped contributing to Europe for a year or two there would not be the requirement to raise more taxes in the UK.

It seems to me that at the very least we need to have the facts regarding the costs and benefits of inclusion.

Is this common sense? Does the UK receive any real value in return? Are the three main parties trying to hide something from us?

The whole thing seems highly suspicious to me scratchchin

What are your thoughts?




tangent police

3,097 posts

202 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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There is a "big picture" of a communitarian federation of socialist states, which shall never again go to war and it is more fundamental and necessary than any of the practicalities or consequences. One of the biggest political "experiments" since the USSR. IMO.

/tin foil hat.

andy400

11,344 posts

257 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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It's obvious that 'they' don't want us to see a cost/benefit breakdown. I've pondered the question for some time, but can't find any facts or figures anywhere. Maybe there's a 'bigger picture' for the future, but IMO it's helping to ruin the UK in the 'now' so it'd better be worth it!

This is a good read on the subject:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Truth-They-Wont-Tell-About...


odyssey2200

18,650 posts

235 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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If the public knew the real reasons for statying in the EUSSR there would be an outcry.

If the real cost Vs Benefit of being in the EU were made public there would be a UKIp landslide at the next election.

None of the big 3 are prepared to risk that.


tangent police

3,097 posts

202 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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The United States of Europe is a very old idea indeed. I have a book from just after the second world war how it was going to be drawn up Sim City style.

Asterix

24,438 posts

254 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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tangent police said:
There is a "big picture" of a communitarian federation of socialist states, which shall never again go to war and it is more fundamental and necessary than any of the practicalities or consequences. One of the biggest political "experiments" since the USSR. IMO.

/tin foil hat.
Who'd go to war with us anyway - country is buggered with limited resources anyway - who'd want it.

tangent police

3,097 posts

202 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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Asterix said:

limited resources .
nono

Bigger recoverable coal reserves than Australia.

Biggest Tungsten reserves in W Europe.

Significant Tin (The yanks have none at all), some spar, a load of zinc and a fair bit of lead.

UK is very mineral rich indeed. If we couldn't import the smaller stuff, we have a lot of other minerals as well.

Asterix

24,438 posts

254 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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tangent police said:
Asterix said:

limited resources .
nono

Bigger recoverable coal reserves than Australia.

Biggest Tungsten reserves in W Europe.

Significant Tin (The yanks have none at all), some spar, a load of zinc and a fair bit of lead.

UK is very mineral rich indeed. If we couldn't import the smaller stuff, we have a lot of other minerals as well.
Ok hehe apart from that stuff...

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

220 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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tangent police said:
Asterix said:

limited resources .
nono

Bigger recoverable coal reserves than Australia.

Biggest Tungsten reserves in W Europe.

Significant Tin (The yanks have none at all), some spar, a load of zinc and a fair bit of lead.

UK is very mineral rich indeed. If we couldn't import the smaller stuff, we have a lot of other minerals as well.
Exactly.

Now just imagine how much that industry could contribute to our society in times like this! Think of all the jobs that could be created, etc....

But ofcourse, can't do that now....what with the Evil CO2 running riot all over the planet!