HELP Problem with the Ro
HELP Problem with the Ro
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gsd2000

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11,515 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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I need help. I have just come home from dropping my younger brother off at the cinemas and as i was parking up, i was reversing on the drive to align the car up and then the car locked.

I was reserving and then the back end of the car just stopped and i couldn't reverse any more, it was like the handbrake had been applied, i rolled the car forward about half a meter and reversed and got further back and then it did it again.

I managed to park up straight on the drive and got my trusty costco jack out and had a look underneath but i can't see anything out of place, broken or twisted. The diff has occasionally been knocking and making a few noises when changing gear and whinning a touch at times, mainly when i lift off in fifth and sixth but i was told that i would hear more whines and knocks as i have a fully polybushed rear end with the extra "hardcore" shims fitted, along with pedders XA coilovers.

I did try to reverse off the drive to check after i had inspected it to see if it was a one off but it did it again, i can reverse but i have to roll the car forward and then backwards over and over again to make progress.

I personally think that the diff is playing up but i need some other ideas of how to fully diagnose the car.

If the diff is on its way out and locking up then i wont be able to make thunder road frown

I recently bought some diff and gearbox oil and i was planning on changing them both before thunder road.

Or could it be the brakes binding?

As i did wash the car today and i have AP's?

please someone help

thankyou

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

238 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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first thing i would check would be the handbrake shoes as if a set has come adrift then it could be causeing it. Failing that could be the diff but i would expect it to be very noisey

gsd2000

Original Poster:

11,515 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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neiljohnson said:
first thing i would check would be the handbrake shoes as if a set has come adrift then it could be causeing it. Failing that could be the diff but i would expect it to be very noisey
the diff is a bit clunky when i try to pull away, but like i said i was told that it sounds clunkyer with the extra bushes, doesnt clunk once moving just sometimes when pulling away slowly

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

238 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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Get it jacked up and have a feel if its the diff it should do it from both sides and iirc you can take the rear diff cover off and have a look inside. If its the handbrake will most likely only be the one side smile

MyM8V8

9,468 posts

226 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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I dont think it's the diff, but I have a spare you can borrow. I think Neils right and its the hand brake shoes.

gsd2000

Original Poster:

11,515 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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Thats good to know, i dont think i will go to the breakfast club meet tomorrow and check the brakes instead.

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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My first thought was handbrake shoes. I don't know about the Monaro, but the VXR8 is very harsh - either on, or off.

gsd2000

Original Poster:

11,515 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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Thanks for the help everyone thumbup there is hope thats its just the handbrak shoes sticking but why are they sticking in reverse only?

I know the handbrake setup on a ro is considered "unique", is there anything in particular "unique" about the handbrake setup?

The diff looks clean, no oil spray like the leak i had last time.

Bonnie and Clyde

11,701 posts

223 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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Just read this mate Hope its nothing serious and you get it sorted. I need you to be at TR Now Stigs not running i need someone to beat hehe
Just playing flowerpaperbag Hope you sort it kid

MyM8V8

9,468 posts

226 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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Bonnie and Clyde said:
Just read this matefrown Hope its nothing serious and you get it sorted. I need you to be at TR;) Now Stigs not running i need someone to beat;) hehe
Just playing flowerpaperbag Hope you sort it kidsmile
Why isn't Stig running. Problem with his sphincter?

Wolfracer

2,074 posts

237 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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gsd2000 said:
Thanks for the help everyone thumbup there is hope thats its just the handbrak shoes sticking but why are they sticking in reverse only?

I know the handbrake setup on a ro is considered "unique", is there anything in particular "unique" about the handbrake setup?

The diff looks clean, no oil spray like the leak i had last time.

It a leading edge shoe design, so the front engages first, and very aggresively, thats why they are shite when going backwards. If they were "misaligned" I suppose you could expect that same fierce grip backwards aswell? Hope you can sort it quick mate.

MyM8V8

9,468 posts

226 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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gsd2000 said:
Thanks for the help everyone thumbup there is hope thats its just the handbrak shoes sticking but why are they sticking in reverse only?

I know the handbrake setup on a ro is considered "unique", is there anything in particular "unique" about the handbrake setup?

The diff looks clean, no oil spray like the leak i had last time.
It would be quite easy to drop the back discs off and have a look.

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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gsd2000 said:
Thanks for the help everyone thumbup there is hope thats its just the handbrak shoes sticking but why are they sticking in reverse only?
If a spring has dropped off?

crisisjez

9,209 posts

236 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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ARAF said:
gsd2000 said:
Thanks for the help everyone thumbup there is hope thats its just the handbrak shoes sticking but why are they sticking in reverse only?


If a spring has dropped off?


Thats my thought , if a rear spring has dropped off or broken then the trailing edge of the shoe (going forwards) will have dropped and would bind up when moving backward.

Bonnie and Clyde

11,701 posts

223 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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MyM8V8 said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
Just read this mate Hope its nothing serious and you get it sorted. I need you to be at TR Now Stigs not running i need someone to beat hehe
Just playing flowerpaperbag Hope you sort it kid


Why isn't Stig running. Problem with his sphincter?
rofl Yes i believe sorofl It become rather twitchy when he faces the prospect of a race with mehehe


Well it would after the "grudge match" at Shakeyshehe

L2VXR

1,014 posts

244 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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I've put you a pdf together with most of the hand brake info you should need to check it out
click the link and download the file

www.4shared.com/file/245606664/8ae90a27/parking_brake.html

gsd2000

Original Poster:

11,515 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th March 2010
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L2VXR said:
I've put you a pdf together with most of the hand brake info you should need to check it out
click the link and download the file

www.4shared.com/file/245606664/8ae90a27/parking_brake.html


thumbup That is exactly what i was after. Thankyou very much

gsd2000

Original Poster:

11,515 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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Thankyou MYM8V8 and L2VXR for helping me out with the brakes, letting me borrow the lift and the cup of tea thumbup

odd how nothing is was wrong but looks like something has been there in the past.

I did find it odd how with the handbrake on the drivers side wheel spun when removing the wheel but once we had the disc off, inspected it and refitted everything the handbrake seemed to hold the wheel okay whilst tightening the wheel nuts up

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

238 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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Glad you got it sorted see you at tr thumbup

gsd2000

Original Poster:

11,515 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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Everything looks good enough for thunder road but i think that they will need adjusting