How desirable are the Monaro and R8 to thieves?
How desirable are the Monaro and R8 to thieves?
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nosubstitute

Original Poster:

750 posts

213 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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Is there a market for these cars outside of legal channels?

Are the cars more at risk from joyriders than 'professional' thieves?

The reason for my question is that I have spent quite a lot on my car having worked bloody hard for it and I'd be gutted to have it stolen.

THUNDER STORM

1,261 posts

200 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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If you have spent that much on the car then pleeeeeeease ensure you spend some money on security.

Tracker,further imobilizer that requires manual secret switch incase they get your keys etc etc.

Ate for you to loose it to some shcensoredt head just for a few hundred quid more.

Good luck

Adebyebye

Edited by THUNDER STORM on Sunday 21st March 19:13

mfp4073

2,111 posts

205 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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The only way to take one of these cars is to break into your house and take the keys,so hide them properly! and to be honest I think a joy ride would be a low risk. It is more likely the car would be stolen to order by someone who has thought how to get rid of it. The chances are it would end up in a container and taken abroard.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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THUNDER STORM said:
If you have spent that much on the car then pleeeeeeease ensure you spend some money on security.

Tracker,further imobilizer etc etc.

Ate for you to loose it to some shcensoredt head just for a few hundred quid more.

Good luck

Adebyebye
+1 yes

THUNDER STORM

1,261 posts

200 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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Please see my first reply, I have put in a edited bit.

Adebyebye

chr15b

3,467 posts

221 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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If it's anything like the r32, I've had two attempted breakins now..

Usual stuff for the house, security lights outside, timed lights inside, make the perimiter as secure as possible, ie if you have a side gate, lock it..

Both times was when I was lax with house security (two different houses)

After_Shock

8,751 posts

251 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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I dont think joy riders would target it, they probs have no experience of the car and the security systems on it.

Personally I take a few probably unusual steps to secure the car when its parked up, the car is kept at a different address to where it is registered so if they got my details from the reg number they wouldnt find it, also if they do go to the address its registered to its a walled off private estate with 1 entrance secured by electronic gates so should deter anyone.

The keys to the car are kept at a seperate address to where it is kept. When parked its always in a locked and alarmed garage, the door is double locked from inside so no visible signs from outside theirs something worth stealing inside and also have an automatic banger which is wedged up against the door from outside which would take a lot of shifing if it was needed to be moved.

Obviously all of this is no use if the car is not parked where I park it but it was only parked over night away from here once last year (excluding when in garages getting work done)

Wolfracer

2,074 posts

237 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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Blimey Aftershock, are the keys on a stone plinth that you need to counterbalance the weight with a bag of sand, Indie Jones style to avoid a big stone ball flattening you?. If not, why not?!
Personally I don't see our cars as actually that desirable to the mass theiving oportunistic scum ba$tards out there, but you never know, which is why I never have any fuel in mine....! In fact if I go on holiday, I will let the tank get down to zero miles.. will give the robbing a'holes an issue, locally to me as well so quite easy to get petrol station ID's on them.

after_shock

8,751 posts

251 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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Haha didnt want to go into the mission impossible style room ive got set up for the keys to be kept in and the fact I even remove the battery from the fob everytime, also remove the wheels and put it on axle stands every time put it away and send each of the wheels to the 4 corners of the earth, they will never get a wheel with the same stud pattern and offset to fit lol

Forgot to mention the fuel, its never intentional but it never has anything in it when put the car away, always end up using it all!!

Wolfracer

2,074 posts

237 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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after_shock said:
they will never get a wheel with the same stud pattern and offset to fit lol


rofl hehe

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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mfp4073 said:
The only way to take one of these cars is to break into your house and take the keys,so hide them properly! and to be honest I think a joy ride would be a low risk. It is more likely the car would be stolen to order by someone who has thought how to get rid of it. The chances are it would end up in a container and taken abroard.
If someone wishes to take the car I'd much rather they find the keys easily as to not destroy my home or risk my family. Thats what insurance is for

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
mfp4073 said:
The only way to take one of these cars is to break into your house and take the keys,so hide them properly! and to be honest I think a joy ride would be a low risk. It is more likely the car would be stolen to order by someone who has thought how to get rid of it. The chances are it would end up in a container and taken abroard.
If someone wishes to take the car I'd much rather they find the keys easily as to not destroy my home or risk my family. Thats what insurance is for
alot of insurance companys will not pay out if you do not have the keys
was told this by a plan this year

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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007 VXR said:
stigmundfreud said:
mfp4073 said:
The only way to take one of these cars is to break into your house and take the keys,so hide them properly! and to be honest I think a joy ride would be a low risk. It is more likely the car would be stolen to order by someone who has thought how to get rid of it. The chances are it would end up in a container and taken abroard.
If someone wishes to take the car I'd much rather they find the keys easily as to not destroy my home or risk my family. Thats what insurance is for
alot of insurance companys will not pay out if you do not have the keys
was told this by a plan this year
i'd like to see (hate to tempt fate) any insurance company try to successfully deny a claim because someone broke into my house and stole the keys

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
007 VXR said:
stigmundfreud said:
mfp4073 said:
The only way to take one of these cars is to break into your house and take the keys,so hide them properly! and to be honest I think a joy ride would be a low risk. It is more likely the car would be stolen to order by someone who has thought how to get rid of it. The chances are it would end up in a container and taken abroard.
If someone wishes to take the car I'd much rather they find the keys easily as to not destroy my home or risk my family. Thats what insurance is for
alot of insurance companys will not pay out if you do not have the keys
was told this by a plan this year
i'd like to see (hate to tempt fate) any insurance company try to successfully deny a claim because someone broke into my house and stole the keys
i know frown but thats what i was told when i took out this years insurance

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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not to try to say you are a liar as I'm not but I simply refuse to believe anywhere a prescedence has been set that an insurance company can refuse to pay out if the keys are stolen and you can prove you took adequate measures. IE locked in the house. As a publican it may be different as you have waif and strays passing through your doors, usually dressed in orange

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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stigmundfreud said:
not to try to say you are a liar as I'm not but I simply refuse to believe anywhere a prescedence has been set that an insurance company can refuse to pay out if the keys are stolen and you can prove you took adequate measures. IE locked in the house. As a publican it may be different as you have waif and strays passing through your doors, usually dressed in orange
was told key crime up 20% this year ..nothing to do with my job frown

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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007 VXR said:
stigmundfreud said:
not to try to say you are a liar as I'm not but I simply refuse to believe anywhere a prescedence has been set that an insurance company can refuse to pay out if the keys are stolen and you can prove you took adequate measures. IE locked in the house. As a publican it may be different as you have waif and strays passing through your doors, usually dressed in orange
was told key crime up 20% this year ..nothing to do with my job frown
they simply cannot not pay out for your car being stolen with your key. I refuse to believe it and hope to god I dont have to find out. If they break into the house, they can have the keys I am not putting myself or my partner at any further risk. Its a car, its insured against the risk and if any insurance company wishes to argue otherwise we'll see them in court

Trailermasher

730 posts

253 months

Sunday 21st March 2010
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Same issue as having your keys stolen off your person when out.
If you have home insurance then the keys and consequences covered there, otherwise the car insurance shoud cover it.

I know of a couple of refusals when car not parked where said on insurance application. i.e.said kept on driveway, but parked on street.

Without keys these are nearly impossible to start, but would also recommend a tracker and a secondary immobiliser.

I'm sure Gareth will have an insight on this!

Paul.H.

510 posts

247 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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I checked with RAC Tracker - tracker is only activated if the car is moving without the keys!

Well_Fans

4,193 posts

255 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Paul.H. said:
I checked with RAC Tracker - tracker is only activated if the car is moving without the keys!


they can also activate it remotely to check its working correctly, had them test mine when the speed camera option was turned off by mistake. Twice I've had them alert me when car was on a trailer and I hadnt alerted them beforehand, furthest it got before my phone was ringing was around a mile away.