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Edt

Original Poster:

5,200 posts

302 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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OK.. I really should know this...

Just stuck my trusted FireWire card into my new Dell PC running XP pro.. and doesnt appear to know it's there. Annoyingly I cant find the packaging that came with the card to see if there was a disk, though IIRC there wasnt; Win 2K in the old pc found it easily enough.

Does something to do with a 1394 file ring a bell out there my PC buddies ?!

Cheers
Ed

ErnestM

11,621 posts

285 months

Thursday 19th February 2004
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XP should find it, no problem.

Have you looked to see if it might be sharing an interrupt with another piece of equipment (eg: Sound Card, Video or even Mass Storage)?

ErnestM

EdT

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5,200 posts

302 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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Whoops .. now that's embarassing! I had pushed it home firmly enough. Now I have, the external drive was found 1s time.

BUT.. now the modem's buggered. Ace. Connects fine but wont browse the web / receive mails. Always sticks on 215 bytes inbound. Have taken the card out, moved slots (oh btw fired up old PC to send this) etc etc.. using same phoneline cable as I am now & have run out of ideas. Device mamager seems to think it's all tickety-boo too.. passes all tests.

Balls.. this was the very last thing to set up new PC. Dont suppose anyone's got any thoughts ? Suppose it's possible its the ISP, but it has been like this for several hours now. Also possible that the modem's failed.. but reckon it's something else.

** help **

ErnestM

11,621 posts

285 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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If XP has set up your firewire with TCP/IP as a network interface device - disable it. (Start->Network Connections->1394 Connection - right click disable). Reboot your system. This should help your internet connectivity and should not impair your 1394 card...

ErnestM

EdT

Original Poster:

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302 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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Took the Firewire card back out of the Dell since this modem gremlin started.. in case there was a conflict. The only network connection is my dial-up account. balls

onedsla

1,114 posts

274 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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Assuming you're using a USB modem...?

The software can be very buggy and an uninstall / reinstall may be worth a try.

Edt

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5,200 posts

302 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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Afraid not.. its a PCI card modem. Tried again just this morning on hope it was the ISP.. sadly the same. It still connects perfectly, but receieves b*gger all (i.e. a hundred bytes here & there) no matter what I try to do. Will have a major tinker this weekend. Or buy another modem card (not too dear these days I think). Cheers for suggestions all, though !

Ed

jsr

1,155 posts

268 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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Had exactly the same problem last week

XP should have the IEEE1394 drivers installed. However, they weren't on mine! And doesn't sound like it's on your either.

If you have the XP setup disc, you should be able to install the driver manually (ie through Control Panel, Hardware, Drivers etc).

My OS was pre installed when i bought the PC and only got a recovery disc with it - no good. I spent 5 hours searching the web for drivers.
I will email you the drivers you need this evening (at work at mo!). This should cure your problem.

sometimes i wish i had an Apple...

Edt

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302 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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jsr said:
Had exactly the same problem last week

XP should have the IEEE1394 drivers installed. However, they weren't on mine! And doesn't sound like it's on your either.

If you have the XP setup disc, you should be able to install the driver manually (ie through Control Panel, Hardware, Drivers etc).

My OS was pre installed when i bought the PC and only got a recovery disc with it - no good. I spent 5 hours searching the web for drivers.
I will email you the drivers you need this evening (at work at mo!). This should cure your problem.

sometimes i wish i had an Apple...


James.. thanks.. but the firewire problem was me not pushing it home . However since it's been in, the modem has packed up, sort of. So took the FW card out, modem still unhappy. Connects OK, but no more

Gives me something to bash my head against over the weekend, anyhow. Yawn

Ed

ErnestM

11,621 posts

285 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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Do you have a comm port assigned to your pci modem card?

...

BTW - I NEVER use internal modems because I have yet to find one that doesn't cause major system problems. Much easier just to hook one up to a serial port (as external modems seem to be the only reason to still have a comm port on a pc). Externals are great - if you have a problem, no need to go rooting around inside the box. Also - try multitech modems if you can - these are the most trouble free that I have ever had...

ErnestM

Edt

Original Poster:

5,200 posts

302 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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...and my Road Angel

The com port assignation appeared to change depepnding on which slot I shoved the card into. I assume 1 & 2 are the 2 9 pin jobs at the back of the PC, then 3,4 or 5 were taken by the card depending where it was. Dont know how the OS sorts this Com port out. If I moved the modem to 5, then 3 & 4 reported 'in use' which seemed odd.


I've still got an old external 56K job somewhere.. maybe I'll just pop that it. Was trying to keep my 'office' (read cupbaord) tidy

Ed


Ed



squirrelz

1,186 posts

289 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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I think you'll find that the OS remembers old cards and what com port they were using, which is why the com port changed when you move it from slot to slot i.e. it thought it was seeing a new card each time and assigning a different com port.

Edt

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Friday 20th February 2004
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squirrelz said:
I think you'll find that the OS remembers old cards and what com port they were using, which is why the com port changed when you move it from slot to slot i.e. it thought it was seeing a new card each time and assigning a different com port.


This means I can ignore the number jumping? Or should I free up the non-used 'in use' ones ?

Ta all

Ed

ErnestM

11,621 posts

285 months

Friday 20th February 2004
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There is usually a selection in the modem properties tab pages where you can assign a com port to the particular modem. Not knowing which brand (and even if I did - probably couldn't figure it out) it is hard to say. I would try the modem manufacturer's web site (with your old PC) and look for any troubleshooting related to the problem...

ErnestM

EdT

Original Poster:

5,200 posts

302 months

Saturday 21st February 2004
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HOly cr*p this is annoying. Binned the PCI card & put another one in (that I know is A OK).. guess what.. exactly the same - connects fine but that's all. Then had a look through the system resources everything & found one of the USB ports using IRQ 19 as was the modem, so disabled that port. Did it help? Did it .

Time to go outside & kick something

Ed

ErnestM

11,621 posts

285 months

Saturday 21st February 2004
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External modem would be the way forward more than likely. Since the computer has already assigned resources to a serial port or USB, it just makes sense to use it...

ErnestM

EdT

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302 months

Saturday 21st February 2004
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Utterly agree.. but oh dear.. the Dell has a single 9 pin serial port. . meaning cant update the Road Angel.

Meanwhile, things have gone from **** to ******* ****

I think I'm looking at a slow re-install after wiping the drive.. something really screwy is going on now. And I'll make several system restore points along the way. Happy ,happy days.

Still, May Payne 2 runs soooo well on it

Ed

Edt

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5,200 posts

302 months

Sunday 22nd February 2004
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5 hours on.. have re-installed XP & now working my way through the most needed apps. Modem working as it should be, very very pleased to report. Creating regular restore points as I go, just in case.

Hands up who loves PCs

Ed

(hands down)

Edt

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302 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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Just an update.. v carefully installed app by app & tested mail each time. Should have guessed... the version of MacAfee Firewall didnt get on with OE6 running in XP. Obvious really

hrmph

Ed