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Lefty Two Drams

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21,364 posts

232 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Someone from my work is selling one, standard 1998 model estate. High miles but fsh and seems to be in good nick.

I seem to recall that these are something like 1250kg dry. How much could feasibly be saved by stripping interior trim, rear seats etc? How suitable are they as budget track-slags?

Ta

Shropshiremike

24,475 posts

233 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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Lefty Two Drams said:
Someone from my work is selling one, standard 1998 model estate. High miles but fsh and seems to be in good nick.

I seem to recall that these are something like 1250kg dry. How much could feasibly be saved by stripping interior trim, rear seats etc? How suitable are they as budget track-slags?

Ta
Autocar listed a 5-dr in March 98 as 1235kg. 4th Feb issue if you care.

dibbly dobbler

11,493 posts

227 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2010
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I had a 1998 turbo saloon - first decent car I owned and I absolutely loved it cloud9

Did a track day with it and tbh it was marginally underwhelming - quick enough but not much fun, lots of understeer (although I am happy to accept that may have been down to me paperbag). Maybe RWD would be a better way forward for a track car ?

By the way it was 208bhp as far as I can recall...

Lefty Two Drams

Original Poster:

21,364 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Thanks for the answers chaps, not sure what to do.

Maybe an e30 would be a better bet (I'm really not an mx5 type of guy...). wink

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Turbo 2000 had 208hp revised to 215 for 99 MY. The weight isn't far out if not correct nfast and capable. Should be reliable but can be Pricey if stuff breaks.

More of an understeerer in stock trim and rubbish brakes. Would be a laugh for sure and lots of potenial if you have the £££. But pos not the most fun.

Also what sort of money? £3k will get you a JDM Sti, which is quote different and better car.

Lefty Two Drams

Original Poster:

21,364 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Thanks.

Initial budget including a few mods, maybe a set of decent tyres is probably 3-5k...

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Start with a Saloon.

dibbly dobbler

11,493 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Well I am no expert in this by any means but I would be thinking fun = oversteer = RWD so how about something like this

Cheap as chips and plenty scope of for mods smile

DavidY

4,492 posts

314 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Put it on the Prodrive 'twisty' suspension settings then it will kill the understeer and handle like a big go-kart

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Lefty Two Drams said:
Thanks.

Initial budget including a few mods, maybe a set of decent tyres is probably 3-5k...
If I had £3-5k to spend on a track car, I probably wouldn't spend it on a Turbo 2000 if I'm honest.

I really love Impreza's and Subaru's in general, but a Turbo 2000 is a compromised setup IMO without BIG money to spend on it.

And then there's the important question on fun. A track day isn't a race, so do you want the fastest you can buy/build or do you want maximum fun?

For me I'd much rather have less speed, but more fun.


So I think I'd be looking at things more like these:



£3200
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1543446.htm



3.9 V8 and £3995
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1241267.htm


Also V8 and other mods. £3295
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1419301.htm


All are lighter than an Impreza, all RWD and more fun. The V8's will sound fab too. And I suspect all would be cheaper to run and maintain in terms of parts and upgrades.

smile

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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GC8 said:
Start with a Saloon.
Na,better weight distribution with a wagon.

MMTWRX

598 posts

216 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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GC8 said:
Start with a Saloon.
What would you know biggrin

and an import

GC8

19,910 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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I'll have you know that I used to be an expert! biggrin

I only came to that conclusion based on the budget that you have: if youre spending a further £2,000 over the cars purchase cost then Id have one eye on re-sale. Whether the GF8 has better weight distribution (sufficient to make any difference) than the GC8 I cant say, but it certainly has far less rigidity. If you want it to work as it is (with geo and a decent rear ant-roll bar) then Id say that a 'Wagon would be best, as theyre cheaper. If youre spending money then put a little of it towards a Saloon, as itll be money well spent.

bazking69

8,620 posts

220 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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rigga said:
GC8 said:
Start with a Saloon.
Na,better weight distribution with a wagon.
WRC would argue the case for the saloon...

militantmandy

3,838 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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300bhp/ton said:
I'm sure it would be great fun, but my god that is ugly....maybe it's just that angle!

Kiltie

7,505 posts

276 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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Iain - you have PM.

Cheers,

Eric smile

GravelBen

16,502 posts

260 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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I'd take an STi-RA over a Type-R wink

Not much difference really, just the RA has 4 doors and (depending on year) is a touch lighter at 1200kg.

GravelBen

16,502 posts

260 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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Gaz. said:
GravelBen said:
I'd take an STi-RA over a Type-R wink

Not much difference really, just the RA has 4 doors and (depending on year) is a touch lighter at 1200kg.
Prefer the 2 door shell & I haven't seen an RA without a roof scoop yet.
I prefer the 4-door practicality wink

And all RA's have the roof scoop as standard because they were the factory homologation car.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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militantmandy said:
300bhp/ton said:
I'm sure it would be great fun, but my god that is ugly....maybe it's just that angle!
No, every angle.

Horrible car no matter what anyone says.

Lefty Two Drams

Original Poster:

21,364 posts

232 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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I was reading a bit about e36 BM's last night and was astonished how heavy they are eek