Pre Living Together Agreement
Pre Living Together Agreement
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st_files

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5,443 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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I am contemplating moving in with my gf later this year. I wanted to get PH advice on what to do in terms of an agreement of property ownership - as it happens we both have property but there's an imbalance in the values in my favour. Would you recommend some sort of written agreement as to who owns what as we will be buying a house together?

Edited by st_files on Wednesday 24th March 10:23

julian64

14,325 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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I doubt you be in the relationship long enough for it to matter smile

anonymous-user

82 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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I have never really dicussed it in the past just assumed I would leave with what I arrived with and anything bought jointly would be worked out

If you are preparing for the worst and you haven't even decided to do it yet, are you sure it's a good idea?

I moved in with my OH last month and if she has presented me with a list of items she would be retaining in the event of a break up I would have thought twice, chill man, enjoy it and go with the flow

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 24th March 09:50

Muzzer

3,814 posts

249 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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If the contents of your house are worth a lot of money (a proper lot) or have serious sentimental value (heirlooms and the like) then I would clarify ownership.

If not, as posted previously, just go with the flow. Introducing a list of what's yours and what's hers will most likely not pre-empt a long-lasting relationship and once you start buying things together such as furniture, is fairly useless.

If you're buying a house together, and aren't married, make sure that's in seperate names and is clarified what %-age is what.

Scott330ci

18,284 posts

229 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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The only thing worth arguing about is the TV.

I had a 50" plasma ready for the flat. She had a 14" CRT.

When eastenders was on I had to go and watch the CRT.

Bad Times

julian64

14,325 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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I just knew the usual suspects would turn up to give an opinion.

Mr Obertshaw

2,187 posts

258 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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anonymous said:
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What he said... If you're already worried about this now It won't last.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

277 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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st_files said:
I am contemplating moving in with my gf later this year. I wanted to get PH advice on what to do in terms of an agreement of who owns what - as it happens we both have property but there's an imbalance in the values in my favour. Would you recommend some sort of written agreement as to who owns what as we will be buying a house together?
definitely

instruct your solicitor to draw something up and have her signature witnessed, don't forget to cross reference the document with photos of every possession

it might also be worth doing a schedule of dilapidations for the possessions too

you can never be too careful

anonymous-user

82 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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sleep envy said:
st_files said:
I am contemplating moving in with my gf later this year. I wanted to get PH advice on what to do in terms of an agreement of who owns what - as it happens we both have property but there's an imbalance in the values in my favour. Would you recommend some sort of written agreement as to who owns what as we will be buying a house together?
definitely

instruct your solicitor to draw something up and have her signature witnessed, don't forget to cross reference the document with photos of every possession

it might also be worth doing a schedule of dilapidations for the possessions too

you can never be too careful
biggrin

carreauchompeur

18,309 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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garyhun said:
sleep envy said:
st_files said:
I am contemplating moving in with my gf later this year. I wanted to get PH advice on what to do in terms of an agreement of who owns what - as it happens we both have property but there's an imbalance in the values in my favour. Would you recommend some sort of written agreement as to who owns what as we will be buying a house together?
definitely

instruct your solicitor to draw something up and have her signature witnessed, don't forget to cross reference the document with photos of every possession

it might also be worth doing a schedule of dilapidations for the possessions too

you can never be too careful
biggrin
Sound advice. SWTs and all. Next she'll have emptied the place and moved in Gypsies. Gypsies I tell you.

cottonfoo

6,049 posts

238 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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dibbers006 said:
You could put blue stickers on your things and she can put pink stickers on hers.

Like which side of the bed and you could put pink stickers on all the white goods and pots and pans and a blue sticker on your cock and wallet.

HTH
hehe

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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I'm not really bothered about divvying up the cd's & I have no reason to think it would ever be an issue. Its the value of my property (which I will need to sell) vs the value of her property which is 60/40 in my favour (based on current prices). I'm old enough to know that relationships sometimes dont work out for whatever reason and I am just wondering if I should do something to protect myself.

bazking69

8,620 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Your solicitor will be able to put any ownership/equity percentage split in writing when you are going through all the other paperwork for a nominal fee.

Salgar

3,285 posts

212 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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st_files said:
I'm not really bothered about divvying up the cd's & I have no reason to think it would ever be an issue. Its the value of my property (which I will need to sell) vs the value of her property which is 60/40 in my favour (based on current prices). I'm old enough to know that relationships sometimes dont work out for whatever reason and I am just wondering if I should do something to protect myself.
Why sell? why not rent your property out and pay her a little rent, that way after a few years if it looks like its going okay you'll have an investment you can sell...

Jesus TF Christ

5,740 posts

259 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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anonymous said:
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Previously I would have agreed, but then the bh took my Dyson.mad
Things evened up when I discovered she'd forogotten to cancel the credit card in my name for her account.whistle

hehe

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Salgar said:
st_files said:
I'm not really bothered about divvying up the cd's & I have no reason to think it would ever be an issue. Its the value of my property (which I will need to sell) vs the value of her property which is 60/40 in my favour (based on current prices). I'm old enough to know that relationships sometimes dont work out for whatever reason and I am just wondering if I should do something to protect myself.
Why sell? why not rent your property out and pay her a little rent, that way after a few years if it looks like its going okay you'll have an investment you can sell...
She doesnt want to sell her place. I guess we'd just buy the new house on a 50/50 basis.

I'm surprised at the negative responses given the number of divorced men on here....

Muzzer

3,814 posts

249 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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st_files said:
Salgar said:
st_files said:
I'm not really bothered about divvying up the cd's & I have no reason to think it would ever be an issue. Its the value of my property (which I will need to sell) vs the value of her property which is 60/40 in my favour (based on current prices). I'm old enough to know that relationships sometimes dont work out for whatever reason and I am just wondering if I should do something to protect myself.
Why sell? why not rent your property out and pay her a little rent, that way after a few years if it looks like its going okay you'll have an investment you can sell...
She doesnt want to sell her place. I guess we'd just buy the new house on a 50/50 basis.

I'm surprised at the negative responses given the number of divorced men on here....
No-one's saying you shouldn't protect yourself with respect to equity in the property(s)

But your OP implied that you wanted to draw up an agreement for the contents of the house, which is a little extreme unless the contents are very valuable. IMO.

Salgar

3,285 posts

212 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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st_files said:
Salgar said:
st_files said:
I'm not really bothered about divvying up the cd's & I have no reason to think it would ever be an issue. Its the value of my property (which I will need to sell) vs the value of her property which is 60/40 in my favour (based on current prices). I'm old enough to know that relationships sometimes dont work out for whatever reason and I am just wondering if I should do something to protect myself.
Why sell? why not rent your property out and pay her a little rent, that way after a few years if it looks like its going okay you'll have an investment you can sell...
She doesnt want to sell her place. I guess we'd just buy the new house on a 50/50 basis.

I'm surprised at the negative responses given the number of divorced men on here....
I'll try again.
You move in to her place. You keep your place, someone rents it from you, pays you money.
You pay her money to live in her place (less than you'd be getting in rent, hence, income), until such a stage as you like each other a bit more and living together works, then you can either sell or just buy another property and pay the mortgage from the income from your last property.

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Salgar said:
st_files said:
Salgar said:
st_files said:
I'm not really bothered about divvying up the cd's & I have no reason to think it would ever be an issue. Its the value of my property (which I will need to sell) vs the value of her property which is 60/40 in my favour (based on current prices). I'm old enough to know that relationships sometimes dont work out for whatever reason and I am just wondering if I should do something to protect myself.
Why sell? why not rent your property out and pay her a little rent, that way after a few years if it looks like its going okay you'll have an investment you can sell...
She doesnt want to sell her place. I guess we'd just buy the new house on a 50/50 basis.

I'm surprised at the negative responses given the number of divorced men on here....
I'll try again.
You move in to her place. You keep your place, someone rents it from you, pays you money.
You pay her money to live in her place (less than you'd be getting in rent, hence, income), until such a stage as you like each other a bit more and living together works, then you can either sell or just buy another property and pay the mortgage from the income from your last property.
Thats a wonderful idea but is a non starter, we live 200 miles apart and are moving roughly halfway (after a lot of negotiation).

st_files

Original Poster:

5,443 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Muzzer said:
st_files said:
Salgar said:
st_files said:
I'm not really bothered about divvying up the cd's & I have no reason to think it would ever be an issue. Its the value of my property (which I will need to sell) vs the value of her property which is 60/40 in my favour (based on current prices). I'm old enough to know that relationships sometimes dont work out for whatever reason and I am just wondering if I should do something to protect myself.
Why sell? why not rent your property out and pay her a little rent, that way after a few years if it looks like its going okay you'll have an investment you can sell...
She doesnt want to sell her place. I guess we'd just buy the new house on a 50/50 basis.

I'm surprised at the negative responses given the number of divorced men on here....
No-one's saying you shouldn't protect yourself with respect to equity in the property(s)

But your OP implied that you wanted to draw up an agreement for the contents of the house, which is a little extreme unless the contents are very valuable. IMO.
Agreed - it is slightly misleading - I'll edit now.