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Langweilig

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4,491 posts

239 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Another pearl of wisdom from the Wail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1260253/Te...

Puggit

49,689 posts

276 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Looks like teachers have taken onboard the inability to be able to teach freely that Labour have foisted on them, and stretched it to the inability to think for themselves too.


Mark Benson

8,264 posts

297 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Dimwit Head said:
‘Like other schools whose premises include wooded areas, our policy when a child climbs a tree, is for staff to observe the situation from a distance so the child does not get distracted and fall.
‘We would strongly urge members of the public not to climb over a padlocked gate to approach children as their motives are not clear to staff.
‘To protect children, we cannot assume that people who enter the school grounds without permission have innocent intentions and must act accordingly.
‘If people are concerned about a child's welfare then they should go to the reception and alert a member of staff, who will be happy to help.
‘I am sure these expectations are the same in every school and are centred on children's wellbeing.’
No, they're not centred of anyone's wellbeing, they're centred on the paranoia that everyone who goes near children is a paedophile and that actually doing something to resolve a situation could lead to the school being sued by a mouthbreathing parent.

If that statement is reported verbatim I wonder what sort of adults we're going to turn out in 20 years time.....

zac510

5,546 posts

234 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Approaching young children in a school? Must be a paedophile too.

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

222 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Ganglandboss said:
Surely a ladder would suffice....though, I like where you're going with the Tranquiliser and Trampoline idea.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

208 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Probably more a case of not wanting to get sent dwn for casuing the child from falling out of the tree.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

283 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Chainsaw...job done smile

paddyhasneeds

66,669 posts

238 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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If they could only bring some illegal immigrants into the story it would be perfect.

Seriously what a piss boiler if taken at face value - I'm sure violence doesn't solve anything but some of these people really do need a slap.

DSM2

3,624 posts

228 months

tangent police

3,097 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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It's a rare case, perhaps 1/10th of schools (in my experience) are in this order of mad about H&S.

The "pedo" hysteria is pretty prevalent though.

Feeble minds are prone to the effects of moral panics.

Daily Mail is a promoter of such, etc.


grumbledoak

32,519 posts

261 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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I suspect that the teachers had no idea where the kid was, and subsequently went on the offensive because it was fairly clearly negligence on their part. H&S the excuse, as it so often is.

Presumably passers-by in future should call 999 and get the Fire Brigade to get the kid down. Great lesson. rolleyes

Randy Winkman

21,975 posts

217 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Sounds like the teachers did the right thing. A brat climbed a tree and refused to come down so they left him to it. Why should they waste their time?

grumbledoak

32,519 posts

261 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Randy Winkman said:
Sounds like the teachers did the right thing. A brat climbed a tree and refused to come down so they left him to it. Why should they waste their time?
Don't get me wrong. Kids that age can climb trees much better than adults, and I would not expect them to try to force him down. But I would have expected the reaction to be, "Thanks, but that's why <junior teacher> was stood there watching him." if that really was the case.

Going on the offensive via the police and trespass sounds much more like back covering. Blaming H&S in cases like these is also more often an excuse than the real reason.

Just how I'm reading it, from human psychology in a potential (in)competence/litigation scenario.

Pesty

42,655 posts

284 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Randy Winkman said:
Sounds like the teachers did the right thing. A brat climbed a tree and refused to come down so they left him to it. Why should they waste their time?
If a teacher is unable to persuade a child that age out of a tree IMO they are in the wrong job.

MiniMan64

19,277 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Mojooo said:
Probably more a case of not wanting to get sent dwn for casuing the child from falling out of the tree.
This.

Fair enough, the teacher goes up and gets the pupil down, something happens to the kid in the process and he is hurt. The law in this country as it stands would most probably allow the school/teacher to be sued or charged for neglect rather than allowing common sense to prevail and assess that children will be children.

Pickled Piper

6,451 posts

263 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Let me suggest another scenario; Child is a complete brat and totally unteachable. He habitually climbs up trees, hides in cupboards and lashes out at any teacher that approaches him. Would you want to be the teacher that climbs up the tree to get him yet again? I would leave him in the tree with the expectation that he will come down by himself when he gets bored and also realises he is no longer centre of attention. This way the teachers spend their time teaching the other 29 children in their class who actually want to learn something.

In the meantime, some passing do gooder decides to enter the school, rescue the little darling, take the school to task and contact the daily mail. The school head is diplomatic, quite rightly chastises the do gooder for trespassing on school property. The head is also unable to tell the press that the little brat is near unteachable and has a history of behaving like a chimpanzee.

As the parent of two primary school children (mine are genuinely little darlings) I can tell you the above is a very plausible and likely scenario. So the main issue becomes the trespassing by the chav women, followed by the inability of the parents to actually parent the brat. Yet more problems for the school to sort out when they could be spending time teaching the kids that actually deserve an education.

pp

eharding

14,648 posts

312 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Pesty said:
If a teacher is unable to persuade a child that age out of a tree IMO they are in the wrong job.


Accompanied by a shout of "Tiiiiiiiiiimmmberrrrrrr!"

This also demonstrates why I'm not a teacher.




Pickled Piper

6,451 posts

263 months

Wednesday 24th March 2010
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Pesty said:
Randy Winkman said:
Sounds like the teachers did the right thing. A brat climbed a tree and refused to come down so they left him to it. Why should they waste their time?
If a teacher is unable to persuade a child that age out of a tree IMO they are in the wrong job.
Really?

Five year old probably brought up by two spineless parents that have never disciplined the brat and have always bowed to his every whim. Think you can do it without swearing or slapping him while he kicks you in the face and spits at you? While still looking after the other 29 children in your care? On a daily basis?

pp


cazzer

8,883 posts

276 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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Pretty sure trespass is a civil offence so I would have been tempted to tell the psco to do one tbh.