BA Staff "Perks"
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Just reading an interesting article on the BBC website which states that BA has revoked the perks of the striking employees.
After reading about said "perks" it turns out that you get a cheap flight (10% of the cost + taxes, are those taxes calculated on the 10% or the full fare?), but you have a standby ticket. According to the article some people have waited days in order to get onto a flight that didn't have paid for customers. One chap was stuck in Los Angeles for four days, and nearly didn't get back to work on time. No doubt if he was late for work he would have been reprimanded.
Surely, if this is supposed to be a perk, you should be treated as though you were a customer? Standby tickets are a nonsense for a family, and it's a joke how this can be classed as anything to rave about. If you want to travel with friends, or on a whim, fair enough - but you can't plan anything around it.
It costs BA very little to put a few extra people in seats they wouldn't have sold anyway... just comes across as though BA are giving their employees such wonderful benefits...
How about giving them cash credits which they can spend on proper flights?
After reading about said "perks" it turns out that you get a cheap flight (10% of the cost + taxes, are those taxes calculated on the 10% or the full fare?), but you have a standby ticket. According to the article some people have waited days in order to get onto a flight that didn't have paid for customers. One chap was stuck in Los Angeles for four days, and nearly didn't get back to work on time. No doubt if he was late for work he would have been reprimanded.
Surely, if this is supposed to be a perk, you should be treated as though you were a customer? Standby tickets are a nonsense for a family, and it's a joke how this can be classed as anything to rave about. If you want to travel with friends, or on a whim, fair enough - but you can't plan anything around it.
It costs BA very little to put a few extra people in seats they wouldn't have sold anyway... just comes across as though BA are giving their employees such wonderful benefits...
How about giving them cash credits which they can spend on proper flights?
Equally, if you want to be treated as a customer, pay more than 10% of the face value 
If the flight isnt full, then the standby list works out nicely. If it is, you wait for the next one along. I'd have thought if it was a family holiday, you'd use the BA systems to find a normally 50% empty plane, and book onto that one, instead of taking the 10.30 commuter express.
If the flight isnt full, then the standby list works out nicely. If it is, you wait for the next one along. I'd have thought if it was a family holiday, you'd use the BA systems to find a normally 50% empty plane, and book onto that one, instead of taking the 10.30 commuter express.
From the Times, which is no guarantee of accurancy I grant you.
"The average pay for BA cabin crew is £29,900, according to the UK Civil Aviation Authority. This compares with an average of £20,200 at easyJet and £14,400 at Virgin Atlantic Airlines. At XL Airways UK crew receive an average of £6,900."
So, you get paid more than the industry average, AND you get cheap travel perks on top.
It is relatively difficult to feel sympathy towards their plight, especially given how the airline industry and the economy in general is performing.
Remember, if you don't like it, you always have the option of leaving, but it hardly appears as though they're being forced up a chimney in exchange for a half ration of gruel...
"The average pay for BA cabin crew is £29,900, according to the UK Civil Aviation Authority. This compares with an average of £20,200 at easyJet and £14,400 at Virgin Atlantic Airlines. At XL Airways UK crew receive an average of £6,900."
So, you get paid more than the industry average, AND you get cheap travel perks on top.
It is relatively difficult to feel sympathy towards their plight, especially given how the airline industry and the economy in general is performing.
Remember, if you don't like it, you always have the option of leaving, but it hardly appears as though they're being forced up a chimney in exchange for a half ration of gruel...
stuart-b said:
How about giving them cash credits which they can spend on proper flights?
I think they get that also, its called a salary and is one of the best in the industry.If the travel perks arnt of that much value to the staff then they shouldn't miss them much and it wont affect their decision to strike will it.
They are fanatastic perks. Firstly they are on top of their already inflated salary. Secondly standby is no problem as they know which flights are full and which aren't-also they do get free flights that aren't standby as well as discounted stand-by flights. Also on most of the flights (depending on their grade) they are put in First and Business Class whilst good customers are refused upgrades. If you are in business or first class they are easy to spot as they are younger than the average customer and dressed in chinos and a smart shirt or smart dress for the ladies (they are told to dress smartly by BA). Typically half of the passengers in business or first are BA staff.
Never mind BBC don't let the truth get in the way of your left leaning agenda.
Walsh is going to break this Union and it is very enjoyable to watch. Either that or BA will go under.
Never mind BBC don't let the truth get in the way of your left leaning agenda.
Walsh is going to break this Union and it is very enjoyable to watch. Either that or BA will go under.
kers eat cake.stuart-b said:
10% of the cost + taxes, are those taxes calculated on the 10% or the full fare
The taxes are the same as any other passenger would pay but the fare part of the overall total is less, therefore the reduction in cost isn't as much as you might think. Also it's not always a simple 90% discount these days, there's a zonal agreement whereby the fare falls into one of a number of bands dictated by the distance travelled. Reduced rate travel is an industry scheme and the majority of carriers operate something similar to BA although the specifics may differ from company to company.stuart-b said:
Just reading an interesting article on the BBC website which states that BA has revoked the perks of the striking employees.
After reading about said "perks" it turns out that you get a cheap flight (10% of the cost + taxes, are those taxes calculated on the 10% or the full fare?), but you have a standby ticket. According to the article some people have waited days in order to get onto a flight that didn't have paid for customers. One chap was stuck in Los Angeles for four days, and nearly didn't get back to work on time. No doubt if he was late for work he would have been reprimanded.
Surely, if this is supposed to be a perk, you should be treated as though you were a customer? Standby tickets are a nonsense for a family, and it's a joke how this can be classed as anything to rave about. If you want to travel with friends, or on a whim, fair enough - but you can't plan anything around it.
It costs BA very little to put a few extra people in seats they wouldn't have sold anyway... just comes across as though BA are giving their employees such wonderful benefits...
How about giving them cash credits which they can spend on proper flights?
I know some BA staff, they and their families fly 1st class everywhere for less than economy fares.. Is that not a massive benefit?After reading about said "perks" it turns out that you get a cheap flight (10% of the cost + taxes, are those taxes calculated on the 10% or the full fare?), but you have a standby ticket. According to the article some people have waited days in order to get onto a flight that didn't have paid for customers. One chap was stuck in Los Angeles for four days, and nearly didn't get back to work on time. No doubt if he was late for work he would have been reprimanded.
Surely, if this is supposed to be a perk, you should be treated as though you were a customer? Standby tickets are a nonsense for a family, and it's a joke how this can be classed as anything to rave about. If you want to travel with friends, or on a whim, fair enough - but you can't plan anything around it.
It costs BA very little to put a few extra people in seats they wouldn't have sold anyway... just comes across as though BA are giving their employees such wonderful benefits...
How about giving them cash credits which they can spend on proper flights?
Cactussed said:
So, you get paid more than the industry average, AND you get cheap travel perks on top.
It is relatively difficult to feel sympathy towards their plight, especially given how the airline industry and the economy in general is performing.
Remember, if you don't like it, you always have the option of leaving
Exactly my view.It is relatively difficult to feel sympathy towards their plight, especially given how the airline industry and the economy in general is performing.
Remember, if you don't like it, you always have the option of leaving
It can't be that hard to mince around serving coffee and putting videos on.
x twelftyrich1231 said:
stuart-b said:
Just reading an interesting article on the BBC website which states that BA has revoked the perks of the striking employees.
After reading about said "perks" it turns out that you get a cheap flight (10% of the cost + taxes, are those taxes calculated on the 10% or the full fare?), but you have a standby ticket. According to the article some people have waited days in order to get onto a flight that didn't have paid for customers. One chap was stuck in Los Angeles for four days, and nearly didn't get back to work on time. No doubt if he was late for work he would have been reprimanded.
Surely, if this is supposed to be a perk, you should be treated as though you were a customer? Standby tickets are a nonsense for a family, and it's a joke how this can be classed as anything to rave about. If you want to travel with friends, or on a whim, fair enough - but you can't plan anything around it.
It costs BA very little to put a few extra people in seats they wouldn't have sold anyway... just comes across as though BA are giving their employees such wonderful benefits...
How about giving them cash credits which they can spend on proper flights?
I know some BA staff, they and their families fly 1st class everywhere for less than economy fares.. Is that not a massive benefit?After reading about said "perks" it turns out that you get a cheap flight (10% of the cost + taxes, are those taxes calculated on the 10% or the full fare?), but you have a standby ticket. According to the article some people have waited days in order to get onto a flight that didn't have paid for customers. One chap was stuck in Los Angeles for four days, and nearly didn't get back to work on time. No doubt if he was late for work he would have been reprimanded.
Surely, if this is supposed to be a perk, you should be treated as though you were a customer? Standby tickets are a nonsense for a family, and it's a joke how this can be classed as anything to rave about. If you want to travel with friends, or on a whim, fair enough - but you can't plan anything around it.
It costs BA very little to put a few extra people in seats they wouldn't have sold anyway... just comes across as though BA are giving their employees such wonderful benefits...
How about giving them cash credits which they can spend on proper flights?
A mate of mine is office staff and he gets a free family ticket to Aus EVERY year in 1st class and once he has completed 15 or 20 years service he gets a free club ticket for his whole family anywhere in the world for the next 15 or 20 years even if he resigns!!! Now THAT is a serious perk!
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