New uncovered 599GTO images...
New uncovered 599GTO images...
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Beefmeister

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16,482 posts

260 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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Looks the business:



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Also, options prices:




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sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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6k euros for stripes?

Jules360

1,949 posts

232 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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Eur 3.2k for a tracker???

okgo

42,284 posts

228 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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That will look better in other colours I feel. Like black.

MaxAndRuby

6,792 posts

262 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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It's stunning, but for billionaires.

I reckon if I had £10M in the bank, that pricelist would still make my eyes water.

Beefmeister

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16,482 posts

260 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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Over €1000 for a 'suit holder'?

WTF?

Anyway, ecurie25 have one of these on order, so it's just a waiting game now until i can get my driving shoes on and take this to north wales and back...

That'll probably cost me a year's points, but who cares, it's bound to be simply epic.

Ferrari wouldn't release a car bearing the GTO moniker without getting it absolutely spot on...

Not Ideal

3,058 posts

218 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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Looks stunning but that options list is just beyond a joke!

Murcielago_Boy

2,014 posts

269 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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FWIW I don't think the options are especially expensive TBH - nor the car. That's about the going rate I suppose for a sporting 12 Cylinder - LP670 is about the same.

Not impressed by pics or the even the real deal. I was able to see some pre-production cars in Maranello last month and was totally indifferent to the way they looked and sounded.

What I really object to though is, that this car is fake GTO. A GTO homologated for nothing, with optional "suit holder". Nice.


Edited by Murcielago_Boy on Monday 29th March 17:16

pattyg

1,385 posts

257 months

Monday 29th March 2010
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Options prices are pure greed imo. Must be some suit holder at 1,148 euro?

stephen300o

15,464 posts

258 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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I love Ferrari's but I don't believe this deserves the GTO badge.

pistolp

1,719 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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I think all ferraris modern options lists are a disgrace and frankly it makes me resent the brand as simply a piss take
As someone who can just about afford these cars I resent the total lack of value that they offer. I appreciate that they've got to make money but what about having a degree of respect for someone who is writing out a 300k cheque, surely you can give them a break and reduce your ludicrous mark up on stripes, caliper paint etc
Makes me really frustrated
Personally I wouldn't buy a new one, I'll let someone else take the hit and own one ina few years


Cactussed

5,364 posts

243 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Agreed. Its a 599 with a body kit and some matt black wrap. Still a nice car but hardly worth of the moniker IMHO.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

247 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Murcielago_Boy said:
FWIW I don't think the options are especially expensive TBH
I know it all relative, but even the electrical doodads are on the pricey side, Ferrari buy in the electrical system just like almost every other manufacturer out there, so there is absolutely no way that an iPod lead being plugged into the iPod socket already built into every loom, should cost a thousand Euros, even half that amount is IMHO excessive.

As for calling it GTO? rofl as other have pointed out, its a road car, not a homologation special, so why not name it something new, instead of raping the past for purely marketing purposes................ I'm sure its going to be a fabulous car to drive and I'm sure the owners will be very happy with them, but its just a 2/3 life span upgrade.

15HN

420 posts

257 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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Cactussed said:
Agreed. Its a 599 with a body kit and some matt black wrap. Still a nice car but hardly worth of the moniker IMHO.
I agree with you (looks wise and on the badge) but to be fair it has got a lot of technology and performance crammed in. In a similar vain is the SV really worthy of its badge? One could suggest that all that is a murci with rear wing and matt black front bumper.

Will be interesting to see the price of a GTO and SV when the successive model comes out.

traxx

3,143 posts

252 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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AndrewW-G said:
so there is absolutely no way that an iPod lead being plugged into the iPod socket already built into every loom, should cost a thousand Euros, even half that amount is IMHO excessive.
FFS Ferrari is running a business like any one else - you can hardly expect them to fit accessories based upon marginal costs

Regarding the car itself - I've seen it and was very impressed. In fact everyone I know who has seen it was impressed and is going ahead with their orders

People saying “it’s just a bit more power and some body kit” are obviously entitled to their own opinions, but frankly none of these people have seen the car and none of them have it on order so aren’t really in a position to comment at this moment.

Why not wait till the launch next week and then have rational discussion once you have seen more pictures and details of the car performance?


munch997

2,325 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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I think Traxx is right, i didn't really like the look of the new R8 spyder from pictures that i saw, didn't look right, but now i have seen one on the road my opinion has changed, they do look ok.
Pictures don't do the car justice sometimes, and i think the 599GTO is one of those cars.

Looks wise i think it is like a conti GT (if you can compare the two) so many around they start to look ordinary, with a design tweak that isn't huge, - like the SuperSports version of the conti, it makes you interested again....

stephen300o

15,464 posts

258 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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15HN said:
Cactussed said:
Agreed. Its a 599 with a body kit and some matt black wrap. Still a nice car but hardly worth of the moniker IMHO.
I agree with you (looks wise and on the badge) but to be fair it has got a lot of technology and performance crammed in. In a similar vain is the SV really worthy of its badge? One could suggest that all that is a murci with rear wing and matt black front bumper.

Will be interesting to see the price of a GTO and SV when the successive model comes out.
The SV's have always been "hotted up" cars rather than a separate model entirely.

Murcielago_Boy

2,014 posts

269 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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traxx said:
AndrewW-G said:
so there is absolutely no way that an iPod lead being plugged into the iPod socket already built into every loom, should cost a thousand Euros, even half that amount is IMHO excessive.
FFS Ferrari is running a business like any one else - you can hardly expect them to fit accessories based upon marginal costs

Regarding the car itself - I've seen it and was very impressed. In fact everyone I know who has seen it was impressed and is going ahead with their orders

People saying “it’s just a bit more power and some body kit” are obviously entitled to their own opinions, but frankly none of these people have seen the car and none of them have it on order so aren’t really in a position to comment at this moment.

Why not wait till the launch next week and then have rational discussion once you have seen more pictures and details of the car performance?

I 100% agree with you regarding the costs of options and the car itself. Standard Ferrari pricing TBH. I don't expect Ferrari to price $1 less than the market can support. Whey should they. If it's too much, options/cars wont sell.

However relating to the car itself - I'm not convinced and according to your criteria, I'm in every position to make that judgement, as I've seen it in the metal, been through technical specifications relating to it, and even heard it in real life. And I will NOT be ordering it. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I'm sure you're a nice chap Traxx but aren't you making a few slightly condescending 'assumptions' about people making their comments here?
More to the point, I do NOT believe that my (or anyone else's) previous record of car ownership, or what I currently have on order, make my opinion any more or less valid than someone who has owned a skateboard and can't afford 20 year old Ford Fiesta.

Going off on a tangent, I do believe that Ferrari's regular customers (myself inc) are not sufficiently discerning about Ferrari's new products which is why Ferrari keep throwing technology at their new cars at the expense of involvement. One of my pals on PH who has an F50 and CGT says, if it's not fun to drive slowly, it's not worth buying. I can help think that the GTO is a little cynical.

Sorry for rant and no offence intended.




Beefmeister

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16,482 posts

260 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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This ^^^ is exactly why I prefer the LP560-4 to the 458.

The Lambo is a more 'raw' driving experience - the 458 seems to be a little too computer controlled for me.

I'll have an LP560-4 Spyder please. In Manual flavour.

And yes, i've driven both. The Lambo quite a lot, the 458 a few laps of a well known Italian test circuit.

Oh, and i've also seen the 599 GTO in the metal, and i think it looks incredible, and sounds...well......not as good as expected.



Edited by Beefmeister on Tuesday 30th March 13:17

15HN

420 posts

257 months

Tuesday 30th March 2010
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stephen300o said:
15HN said:
Cactussed said:
Agreed. Its a 599 with a body kit and some matt black wrap. Still a nice car but hardly worth of the moniker IMHO.
I agree with you (looks wise and on the badge) but to be fair it has got a lot of technology and performance crammed in. In a similar vain is the SV really worthy of its badge? One could suggest that all that is a murci with rear wing and matt black front bumper.

Will be interesting to see the price of a GTO and SV when the successive model comes out.
The SV's have always been "hotted up" cars rather than a separate model entirely.
sorry dont know much about them but my understanding was that they were 2wd and therefore more of a departure from the vt than the current sv is to the lp.