Why no new diesel Fabia Vrs?

[Somnophore]

Seems like the old one was pretty popular, and with fuel prices diesel hot hatches are ever more popular, what gives? Have skoda made a mistake here?

[farrendahl]

You mean like this one due on sale later in the year?

[Somnophore]

Fair enough, just read something yesterday saying about no diesel option, thought it sounded about as barmy as ever thinking ricky martin was straight.

[Jez64]

Thought they were putting the 1.4Tsi motor in.

[Hub]

Jez64 said:

Thought they were putting the 1.4Tsi motor in.

Yep 1.4 TSI about 180bhp with DSG... exactly the same as the Polo GTi and Ibiza Cupra. So, as I think I have said previously it has lost its USP.

SEAT are doing a diesel Ibiza FR with the 2.0 140 TD so it is now pretty much in a class of its own!

Edited by Hub on Tuesday 30th March 20:21

[anonymous-user]

Hub said:

Jez64 said:

Thought they were putting the 1.4Tsi motor in.

Yep 1.4 TSI about 180bhp with DSG... exactly the same as the Polo GTi and Ibiza Cupra. So, as I think I have said previously it has lost its USP.

SEAT are doing a diesel Ibiza FR with the 2.0 140 TD so it is now pretty much in a class of its own!

Edited by Hub on Tuesday 30th March 20:21

Apart from the Alfa Mito jtd Veloce and Fiat Punto Sporting!

[farrendahl]

Jez64 said:

Thought they were putting the 1.4Tsi motor in.

Hmmm I was under the impression that they were going to offer both diesel and petrol engines this time round. If thats not the case I happily stand corrected.

[Somnophore]

I suppose the thinking might be that as the engine is a 1.4tsi and produces (in the Ibiza cupra) 44mpg combined, that a diesel producing early 50s wasn't worth it.

[Kevin VRs]

Somnophore said:

I suppose the thinking might be that as the engine is a 1.4tsi and produces (in the Ibiza cupra) 44mpg combined, that a diesel producing early 50s wasn't worth it.

Combine that with the fact (in my experience) that the 'new' 2.0 engine is less economic than the 'old' 1.9 then high 40s is more likely. My old vRS averaged 50mpg during the 20months/20k miles I had it.

[inman999]

There does seem to be a gap there and the original Fabia VRS must have sold well, there still bloody everywhere. I think if BMW put their 123d engine into the mini and pegged the price it would be a good car. I'd buy as a company car.

[Somnophore]

Just seen the new Ibiza FR tdi in top gear magazine 8.2 0-60, 61mpg combined! That would be
good in the Fabia

[Killer2005]

Whilst the old VRS wasn't necessarily a looker, anyone else think it had more about it than this one?

[Somnophore]

I quite like the look of it actually.

[mark_mcd]

They should have had the vRS out at launch with the success of the old one. I think a tuned version of the newer 1.6TDI would be a decent bet though perhaps unlikely.

[JB!]

Killer2005 said:

Whilst the old VRS wasn't necessarily a looker, anyone else think it had more about it than this one?

yeah.

this new one looks odd...

[V]

inman999 said:

There does seem to be a gap there and the original Fabia VRS must have sold well, there still bloody everywhere. I think if BMW put their 123d engine into the mini and pegged the price it would be a good car. I'd buy as a company car.

Agreed, but fitting a twin-turbo 2.0 engine designed for RWD longitudinal applications into the transverse MINI engine bay is quite difficult and expensive!