Wifey wants a 4x4, Honda CRV (I want her to get an older X5!
Discussion
first off the honda diesel is a cracking engine..
The X5 will be a 40K+ car, and parts will be in proportion to this
With this in mind The honda will I expect be cheaper to run.
Neither are brilliant offroaders in my opinion, but then you buy these not for offroading... I'm looking for something offroad but with very good onroad manners to replace my 04 accord CDTI this year so have been looking.
The Honda if it's anything like my accord will be bulletproof.
If it's her car - have a guess what you'll end up buying?
She could have wanted a RAV4 for christ sakes.
Be thankfful for small mercies ;-)
The X5 will be a 40K+ car, and parts will be in proportion to this
With this in mind The honda will I expect be cheaper to run.
Neither are brilliant offroaders in my opinion, but then you buy these not for offroading... I'm looking for something offroad but with very good onroad manners to replace my 04 accord CDTI this year so have been looking.
The Honda if it's anything like my accord will be bulletproof.
If it's her car - have a guess what you'll end up buying?
She could have wanted a RAV4 for christ sakes.
Be thankfful for small mercies ;-)
From an owners perspective I'd certainly recommend an 'older' X5. I wasn't expecting to get particularly attached to it or end up keeping it very long but it's proved beguiling, entertaining, reliable, characterful and just thoroughly competent in pretty much every department. I (and the whole family) love it.
Only downside is fuel economy.
However, you're best not thinking of it as a 4x4 in the same mould as a Rangie or Disco because- (while it coped with all the snow effortlessly)- it's most definitely NOT got much in the way of off-road ability, but then that's the trade-off for it being excellent on the road.
Only downside is fuel economy.
However, you're best not thinking of it as a 4x4 in the same mould as a Rangie or Disco because- (while it coped with all the snow effortlessly)- it's most definitely NOT got much in the way of off-road ability, but then that's the trade-off for it being excellent on the road.
Hello there Piston Heads People,
Wifey here. My reasons for the Honda are I will be commuting over 1000 miles a month and the car will be left unused for many weeks at a time. It came out really well on the Auto Trader reviews for safety, reliability and all the extras which are available (inc a lumbar support which is great as I have a back injury). HOWEVER, as some observant poster recognised my DH is a mahoosive badge snob and doesn't want a Honda. Are there any other cars you lot would recommend to me that will provide the level of comfort, safety, reliability and fuel economy I will be after. Obviously as I own the tits I will ultimately get what I want but I am not being entirely unreasonable and am prepared to view other options!!
Wifey here. My reasons for the Honda are I will be commuting over 1000 miles a month and the car will be left unused for many weeks at a time. It came out really well on the Auto Trader reviews for safety, reliability and all the extras which are available (inc a lumbar support which is great as I have a back injury). HOWEVER, as some observant poster recognised my DH is a mahoosive badge snob and doesn't want a Honda. Are there any other cars you lot would recommend to me that will provide the level of comfort, safety, reliability and fuel economy I will be after. Obviously as I own the tits I will ultimately get what I want but I am not being entirely unreasonable and am prepared to view other options!!
buy a golf gti!
or if you must have 4x4 get an Audi Allroad.
I've driven a CRV from Manchester to London and then around town on local journeys, it was dreadfull to drive and kind of sums up what these cars are about - people with no idea or interest in driving tend to buy them.
The crv I had was a petrol auto and it was just awfull, low geared but overdriven in top gear, a right pain on the motorway, slow & clumsy, dranklots of petrol, went no where fast.
Similar experience with an X Trail, again petrol auto, drove from inverness to London then back. Drank loads of petrol, made lots of noise, progress very slow was over geared in top, and to overtake you had to drop down a gear and endure the noise and pain of a small engine try and push a boxy 4x4 past 70 it felt like I was in an endurance competition.
It was quite good in the snow, but then again so is any car with winter tyres and 4wd so why drive around in a large boxy saloon on jacked ujp suspension?
Audi allroad is quite a good mix of the two, chunky off road looks, nice to drive, wont get stuck in a field with the right tyres.
or if you must have 4x4 get an Audi Allroad.
I've driven a CRV from Manchester to London and then around town on local journeys, it was dreadfull to drive and kind of sums up what these cars are about - people with no idea or interest in driving tend to buy them.
The crv I had was a petrol auto and it was just awfull, low geared but overdriven in top gear, a right pain on the motorway, slow & clumsy, dranklots of petrol, went no where fast.
Similar experience with an X Trail, again petrol auto, drove from inverness to London then back. Drank loads of petrol, made lots of noise, progress very slow was over geared in top, and to overtake you had to drop down a gear and endure the noise and pain of a small engine try and push a boxy 4x4 past 70 it felt like I was in an endurance competition.
It was quite good in the snow, but then again so is any car with winter tyres and 4wd so why drive around in a large boxy saloon on jacked ujp suspension?
Audi allroad is quite a good mix of the two, chunky off road looks, nice to drive, wont get stuck in a field with the right tyres.
I would have a look at a Lexus RX too, have some badge cache, they have a fantastic spec and a hybrid could be got on a circa 05/06 plate with average mileage for that sort of money. My good lady has one albeit newer but they are very nice. The on road manners are superb I wouldn't want to climb every mountain in it mind you!
Edited by 550Hep on Thursday 1st April 22:05
ks to that, get one of these!
4x4 safety is an illusion. They rollover due to being higher up.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=suv+rol...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=suv+rol...
joebongo said:
4x4 safety is an illusion. They rollover due to being higher up.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=suv+rol...
Yeah, look at the roll on the X5 lolhttp://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=suv+rol...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7-eEqn6VI
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