What is the fastest thing around your average race track?
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Track size is critical ie on a outdoor go kart track a go kart with a 125 mph tip speed is the ultimate. Likewise say at olton park or castle combe really an f1 car is not going to be the fastest.
If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
On a really tight circuit lots of things would be faster but anything where the F1 car can get up some speed and use its downforce - no chance of anything keeping up tbh
There's quite a few videos on youtube demonstrating just how quick an F1 car is. You don't get that sense of speed watching it on TV as all the angles they use show the car coming towards you, it's not a very good sensation of speed.
There's quite a few videos on youtube demonstrating just how quick an F1 car is. You don't get that sense of speed watching it on TV as all the angles they use show the car coming towards you, it's not a very good sensation of speed.
Welshbeef said:
I wonder how a twin turbo and supercharged r500 lightweight caterham would get on????
Also today's f1 car vs last of the line v10's as schy has already stated today's cars are much slower
I thought they beat the outright lap record at the Austi Grand Prix last weekend? Also today's f1 car vs last of the line v10's as schy has already stated today's cars are much slower
Welshbeef said:
Track size is critical ie on a outdoor go kart track a go kart with a 125 mph tip speed is the ultimate. Likewise say at olton park or castle combe really an f1 car is not going to be the fastest.
If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
What do you think would be faster around C Combe than an F1?If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
Bonefish Blues said:
Welshbeef said:
Track size is critical ie on a outdoor go kart track a go kart with a 125 mph tip speed is the ultimate. Likewise say at olton park or castle combe really an f1 car is not going to be the fastest.
If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
What do you think would be faster around C Combe than an F1?If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
Shape Shifter said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Welshbeef said:
Track size is critical ie on a outdoor go kart track a go kart with a 125 mph tip speed is the ultimate. Likewise say at olton park or castle combe really an f1 car is not going to be the fastest.
If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
What do you think would be faster around C Combe than an F1?If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
t. Power, light weight and loads of grip (I want to say 'righting moment' but that is because most of my racing is in boats!)Shape Shifter said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Welshbeef said:
Track size is critical ie on a outdoor go kart track a go kart with a 125 mph tip speed is the ultimate. Likewise say at olton park or castle combe really an f1 car is not going to be the fastest.
If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
What do you think would be faster around C Combe than an F1?If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
Really? You think? Around a proper circuit like Oulton or Combe... a Mitsubishi Evo, faster than an F1 car? Really?
Case in point, Nigel Greensall used to hold the outright lap record at Combe in an ex F1 Tyrell, at 130.93mph lap. However, since they put the chicanes in, it's F3 that's the fastest thing around there I believe.
At Oulton it will probably be the same thing. F3 is probably the fastest thing on most UK circuits (apart from Silverstone and Brands, where they will have historic F1 as well as some people running ex GP, F3000, GT1 stuff in mixed class races etc). As well as LMP sportscars etc.
At somewhere like Cadwell Park, the outright lap record used to be a Radical SR8, but it's now one of the Jedi formula cars I think. But there's no room for anything bigger than a Radical or Jedi there. An F3 car would probably struggle around the mountain there so may not be as quick. The Superkarts around there are mental!
It will all depend on the circuit, but in 99% of the cases, anything ex-F1 or current will take the piss on laptimes over anything else. They keep so much speed through the corners as well as having the power on the straights, not much to live with them really.
It certainly won't be a rally car. Unless it's been snowing, then I'd have a fiver on one being a bit handy!
Edited by Racefan_uk on Thursday 1st April 23:47
Racefan_uk said:
Shape Shifter said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Welshbeef said:
Track size is critical ie on a outdoor go kart track a go kart with a 125 mph tip speed is the ultimate. Likewise say at olton park or castle combe really an f1 car is not going to be the fastest.
If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
What do you think would be faster around C Combe than an F1?If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
Really? You think? Around a proper circuit like Oulton or Combe... a Mitsubishi Evo, faster than an F1 car? Really?
Racefan_uk said:
Shape Shifter said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Welshbeef said:
Track size is critical ie on a outdoor go kart track a go kart with a 125 mph tip speed is the ultimate. Likewise say at olton park or castle combe really an f1 car is not going to be the fastest.
If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
What do you think would be faster around C Combe than an F1?If we take Monaco which is for a track quite long I but average f1 car speed is low I wonder what other cars times are like.
Really? You think? Around a proper circuit like Oulton or Combe... a Mitsubishi Evo, faster than an F1 car? Really?
I think the lap record around Castle Combe is held by an F3 car, so I would think a F1 would be fastest.
59.387 seconds if wiki is to be believed?
Edit: Also, I would have thought things like radicals would or Juno's etc. would wipe the floor with EVO's regardless of the model.
59.387 seconds if wiki is to be believed?
Edit: Also, I would have thought things like radicals would or Juno's etc. would wipe the floor with EVO's regardless of the model.
Edited by Colin 1985 on Thursday 1st April 23:43
Dogbash said:
Well, I was sipping a fosters watching the F1 last week and it got me thinking. Is there anything about which is faster than an F1 around your average race track?
No.Not your average race track.
But a bumpy road course like the IoM TT / Northwest 200 / Dundrod may see a full-on superbike or Pilbeam hillclimber lap almost as fast, if not faster.
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