Children not in car seats.

[gtidriver]

Why is it i still see people driving around with kids unrestrained in cars, saw on m25 yesterday a BMW coupe ra02***with two small kids on adult laps in the back only the front passengers belted up. The most I've seen is seven kids and three adults in a escort estate two in the boot one stood in the front foot well and the rest on the back seat only the adults where wearing belts. What does the law say about this?
This really grates my gonads..

[kambites]

It's illegal.

One could also argue that it's another nanny-state-ism and none of anyone else's business.

[GreigM]

yup, its illegal - but why should you care - natural selection if they crash

[*Al*]

Yes this has been discussed many times before, i find it disgusting that a child is not protected from potential harm by it's parent/gaurdian.Seen this many many times and feel like having a go at these irresponsible people! Hate to say it but the usual 'types' that do this are 'non British looking' individuals, go figure.

[Somnophore]

Report them, it's illegal, dangerous and it's not fair on the children becuase they don't know any better it's their idiot parents who are being gits

[gtidriver]

Just remembered i saw in cape town a few years ago a ninja'd up muslim driving at 70mph with a kid stood in the front foot well.

Edited by gtidriver on Saturday 3rd April 10:45

[Pints]

GreigM said:

yup, its illegal - but why should you care - natural selection if they crash

But if they're paralysed then it's us who pay for their benefits for the rest of their lives.

Please note I don't have an issue with genuine benefit payments for legitimate life-altering injuries but why not prevent it if possible.

[kambites]

Pints said:

Please note I don't have an issue with genuine benefit payments for legitimate life-altering injuries but why not prevent it if possible.

Whilst I agree on principle, which is actually more likely to produce a long-term injury, not wearing a seat-belt and/or overloading a car, or regularly playing football, for example? I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's not the car.

[nick heppinstall]

I saw a kid some time ago unrestrained in the back of a car. I got the number, stopped and reported it to the Police. They said they would call me back. Sure enough 15 minutes later a WPC called me back to get more details.

Said they were sending a car around to their house to have a word.

[ewenm]

It's hard to legislate for stupidity. It's the sort of thing that shouldn't need a law as everyone should see the safest way to transport kids is suitably restrained.

[nick heppinstall]

I remember as a kid spending hours and hours riding in the back of my Dads Cortina Estate. Even had a sleeping bag when we went on hols. The seats were folded down and I had all my cars and stuff in their as well.

It was ace

[ewenm]

nick heppinstall said:

I remember as a kid spending hours and hours riding in the back of my Dads Cortina Estate. Even had a sleeping bag when we went on hols. The seats were folded down and I had all my cars and stuff in their as well.

It was ace

I remember sitting in the boot of my dad's Renault 12 Estate, unrestrained, but I guess traffic levels were lower 20-25 years ago

[nick heppinstall]

20-25 years ? And the rest for me. My mum and dad also smoked. I remember the car having that much smoke in it it was like been in cloud.

Same at home. I rememebr a layer of smoke starting just above my head when I was a kid.

If they thought at the time it was probably not doing me any good they would have been horrified.

[Dangerous Dan]

GreigM said:

yup, its illegal - but why should you care - natural selection if they crash

+1

Think of it this way - they crash and die, that's less mouths for the state of care for/feed.

[nick heppinstall]

Thats a very responsible and mature outlook from you both .....

[paulshears]

I was behind a Corsa the other day..... 2 sign's in the back window, 1 said baby on board, the other was keep your distance

Little lad was stood up on the back seat playing with toys on the parcel shelf

[jas xjr]

a while back i saw an astra van with a child in a carrycot in the loadspace

[Tycho]

If you want to kill yourself then fine but if you are a responsible parent then you'd make sure the child is as safe as possible.

[bazking69]

Another nail in the argument for more traffic police and less speed cameras IMO.

[TheCarpetCleaner]

paulshears said:

I was behind a Corsa the other day..... 2 sign's in the back window, 1 said baby on board, the other was keep your distance

Little lad was stood up on the back seat playing with toys on the parcel shelf

It's a shame they don't do "fkwit on board is driving, keep your distance to protect your paintwork" signs in those circumstances. They would be more apt.