Jonathan Creek
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stephen300o

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15,464 posts

251 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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A bit of a weak one, but did lol when I saw the cat "jumping" on to the table.

Morningside

24,146 posts

252 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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Yes, the cat did land with a bit of a lump. Normally the clues are all the way though.

But come on...screaming or high pitched pipe to break glass laugh Give us some credit please.

SS2.

14,680 posts

261 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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Normally enjoy Jonathan Creek, but I thought that was one of the poorest episodes I have seen.

theironduke

6,995 posts

211 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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Dissapointed. Wish i'd watched the final Frost (Pt 1 of 2) over on ITV...

The early JC's with Caroline Quentin were consistently good i thought.

tr7v8

7,546 posts

251 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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theironduke said:
Dissapointed. Wish i'd watched the final Frost (Pt 1 of 2) over on ITV...

The early JC's with Caroline Quentin were consistently good i thought.
Frost was fantastic, quite dark compared with the previous ones though.

Pesty

42,655 posts

279 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Well i enjoyed it. ok some of the plot was a bit week but entertaining enough

Zad

12,946 posts

259 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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It didn't start well. A couple of minutes in, the passenger in the car reached over to the car CD player in the BMW... And it was a model from 2000 or so.

JagLover

46,019 posts

258 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Rather dull I thought.

May have been improved if it was an hour rather than an hour and a half.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Zad said:
It didn't start well. A couple of minutes in, the passenger in the car reached over to the car CD player in the BMW... And it was a model from 2000 or so.
I said about that :lol: But i was just called a geek and told to shut up

It seemed like there were some scenes missing or something to me? Especially between the "reveal" at the Judas tree, and talking to the old cleaner woman.

Also something I didn't understand...

When the man and woman said "of course we didn't know about her illness" - had that been mentionned at any point? I don't get it


Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 5th April 10:51

Pesty

42,655 posts

279 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Nyphur said:
When the man and woman said "of course we didn't know about her illness" - had that been mentionned at any point? I don't get it
You sure they said illness?

If you mean at the end they were talking about not knowing she was pregnant

stephen300o

Original Poster:

15,464 posts

251 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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They created the mystery by just not telling us anything. "Oh by the way I was tried for the murder of my bosses brother, could that have been a motive?" and "have you seen my best friend anywhere? she seems to have gone missing".

Pesty

42,655 posts

279 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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stephen300o said:
They created the mystery by just not telling us anything. "Oh by the way I was tried for the murder of my bosses brother, could that have been a motive?" and "have you seen my best friend anywhere? she seems to have gone missing".
Also when she was grabbed by the man at the begging there was just grass no massive false house and huge ammounts of scafolding on top of him.

sherman

14,888 posts

238 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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How did they get out of the cellar that they were stuck in with the tons of logs on top of the trap door?

telecat

8,528 posts

264 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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sherman said:
How did they get out of the cellar that they were stuck in with the tons of logs on top of the trap door?
Policeman searching heard them.

Better than the last Christmas special where the lack of action by the Police was more baffling than the plot.

Most of the "holes" were explained but you had to be watching carefully. As for why the girl didn't mention the "Murder" She had been cleared of, would you?? It could also be the memory she referred to that covered it up. It should have been brought up in court though unless there is some rule that would preclude it.

stephen300o

Original Poster:

15,464 posts

251 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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sherman said:
How did they get out of the cellar that they were stuck in with the tons of logs on top of the trap door?
Maybe there's a deleted scene involving Sheridan Smith being caught in the litter box.


Wildsea

1,855 posts

233 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Definatly the poorest episdoe. Used to love this program. The best imho was with the out of control ape lol

Vron

2,541 posts

232 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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The bit with the vase falling down the stairs was very Carry On Cleo - a la Charles Hautrey in the vase. Spoilt it for me and I wanted to see McGann arrested not in church at the end?!

thatone1967

4,229 posts

214 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Pesty said:
stephen300o said:
They created the mystery by just not telling us anything. "Oh by the way I was tried for the murder of my bosses brother, could that have been a motive?" and "have you seen my best friend anywhere? she seems to have gone missing".
Also when she was grabbed by the man at the begging there was just grass no massive false house and huge ammounts of scafolding on top of him.
You don't know far he dragged himself, I thoroughly enjoyed it....not the best (this was the one where a man sold his soul to the devil imho)...

Zad

12,946 posts

259 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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It felt like the writer had lots of small plot points he wanted to use, but was struggling to tie them together. I agree about the cut scenes, it needed to be a full 2 hour programme and felt like it had been edited down. When it got to the reveal I found myself thinking "yes, but hang on..." rather too much. The text message thing with Mrs Warboys was waaay too much of a Hitchcock style maguffin.

So many problems with both the filming and the plot. In the 1988 scenes, she wouldn't have been wearing low cut hipster jeans but relatively high waisted ones. Which reminds me, I'm generally all for girls wearing jeans so tight you can read their lips, but Sheridan Smith is possibly a bit too, er, curvy to carry them off. I still would though. In the denouement scene at the tree, one of the torches kept turning from an LED (blue light) one to a bulb one (yellow light).

But, and it is a big but, I would still love to see another series of Jonathan Creek.

MartG

22,363 posts

227 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Pesty said:
Nyphur said:
When the man and woman said "of course we didn't know about her illness" - had that been mentionned at any point? I don't get it
You sure they said illness?

If you mean at the end they were talking about not knowing she was pregnant
Hence the reference to 'taking an innocent life' when he went to confession - he was referring to the unborn baby