VC Holder snubs Winky
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munroman

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1,908 posts

214 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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As well as being a hero, Johnson Beharry is a man of principle, if only our leaders could be respected the same way!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefr...

Johnson Beharry, Britain's highest decorated serving soldier, refused to shake Gordon Brown's hand in a protest during a state ceremony.

By Ben Leach
Published: 7:00AM BST 05 Apr 2010

Victoria Cross hero Johnson Beharry Photo: PA
The winner of the Victoria Cross said Mr Brown had repeatedly disrespected him, his uniform and the Armed Forces.
The Prime Minister has since written a letter to Lance Corporal Beharry in an attempt to make amends.


But L/Cpl Beharry said it was a personal, rather than political gesture, according to The Sun.
He said that Mr Brown had not looked him or any other servicemen in the eye at a reception in Downing Street in November 2008.
Then in Westminster Abbey during the Remembrance Day service last November he said the Prime Minister was “fidgeting and moving” during the two minute silence.
“I've got head and back injuries that put me back in hospital in a lot of pain quite regularly, so if I could do it there's no reason he couldn't," he said. "It was very rude.
“I was absolutely furious with him. All that was going through my head was to knock him out.
“So on the official line-up that time, I decided I'd get his attention and let him know how I felt.
“When he offered his hand to me I just turned around and walked away. I wanted him to think about his actions and it worked.”
The NCO from the 1st Battalion, Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment said Sarah Brown, the Prime Minister’s wife spotted his snub and wanted to invite him to No 10 to apologise, but no invitation materialised.
L/Cpl Beharry added: "This is nothing to do with the election, or who I want to be PM. My problem is with him personally, Gordon Brown the man."
Downing Street last night said Mr Brown was "seriously concerned" about L/Cpl Beharry's comments and had immediately written to him.
His spokesman said: "The Prime Minister has the utmost respect and admiration for Lance Corporal Johnson Beharry, who has shown great courage.
"Mr Brown has written a personal letter to Johnson Beharry this evening to reassure him of his personal admiration and the great respect in which he is held by the whole country."

chris watton

22,547 posts

290 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Didn’t this one man plague on the UK once say that he ‘Didn’t ‘get’ the army’?

mcdjl

5,760 posts

225 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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munroman said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefr...


By Ben Leach
Published: 7:00AM BST 05 Apr 2010


"Mr Brown has written a personal letter to Johnson Beharry this evening to reassure him of his personal admiration and the great respect in which he is held by the whole country."
The last few words really are quite telling....

smartie

2,629 posts

303 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Wonder if he'll manage to spell his name right when he writes to him!!

theironduke

6,995 posts

218 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Another nail, lets keep the momentum going.

I have a couple of mates in the forces (one Army and one RAF) and both have a veherment hatred of Winky and this shower of a government, i'm pretty sure Labour won't be getting many votes from within the military community.

5unny

4,395 posts

212 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Telegraph said:
Then in Westminster Abbey during the Remembrance Day service last November he said the Prime Minister was “fidgeting and moving” during the two minute silence.

“I've got head and back injuries that put me back in hospital in a lot of pain quite regularly, so if I could do it there's no reason he couldn't," he said. "It was very rude.

“I was absolutely furious with him. All that was going through my head was to knock him out.
smile

I think Lance Corporal Beharry should sign up to PH, he'd fit right in.

What an idiot Brown is. Many President's and PM's around the world care very little for their Armed Forces (Sending them to their death in pointless wars proves this) but at least the likes of Blair, Clinton, Obama etc can fake it when it matters. Brown just seems to lack all kinds of social skills.

Uhura_Fighter

7,018 posts

213 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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theironduke said:
i'm pretty sure Labour won't be getting many votes from within the military community.
I read something the other day stating that only 10% of the military are registered to vote. confused

Jasandjules

72,607 posts

259 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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He's a good man all round then.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

292 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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munroman said:
As well as being a hero, Johnson Beharry is a man of principle, if only our leaders could be respected the same way!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefr...

Johnson Beharry, Britain's highest decorated serving soldier, refused to shake Gordon Brown's hand in a protest during a state ceremony.

By Ben Leach
Published: 7:00AM BST 05 Apr 2010

Victoria Cross hero Johnson Beharry Photo: PA
The winner of the Victoria Cross said Mr Brown had repeatedly disrespected him, his uniform and the Armed Forces.
The Prime Minister has since written a letter to Lance Corporal Beharry in an attempt to make amends.


But L/Cpl Beharry said it was a personal, rather than political gesture, according to The Sun.
He said that Mr Brown had not looked him or any other servicemen in the eye at a reception in Downing Street in November 2008.
Then in Westminster Abbey during the Remembrance Day service last November he said the Prime Minister was “fidgeting and moving” during the two minute silence.
“I've got head and back injuries that put me back in hospital in a lot of pain quite regularly, so if I could do it there's no reason he couldn't," he said. "It was very rude.
“I was absolutely furious with him. All that was going through my head was to knock him out.
“So on the official line-up that time, I decided I'd get his attention and let him know how I felt.
“When he offered his hand to me I just turned around and walked away. I wanted him to think about his actions and it worked.”
The NCO from the 1st Battalion, Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment said Sarah Brown, the Prime Minister’s wife spotted his snub and wanted to invite him to No 10 to apologise, but no invitation materialised.
L/Cpl Beharry added: "This is nothing to do with the election, or who I want to be PM. My problem is with him personally, Gordon Brown the man."
Downing Street last night said Mr Brown was "seriously concerned" about L/Cpl Beharry's comments and had immediately written to him.
His spokesman said: "The Prime Minister has the utmost respect and admiration for Lance Corporal Johnson Beharry, who has shown great courage.
"Mr Brown has written a personal letter to Johnson Beharry this evening to reassure him of his personal admiration and the great respect in which he is held by the whole country."
Please, oh please let it be published in the Sun.

FourWheelDrift

92,313 posts

314 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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It's front page of the Sun, spotted it this morning. It was something like "VC Vs PM" I thought it was about a fight smile

SmoothRB

1,700 posts

202 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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I think he is a bloody idiots and a disgrace to the army. The military is supposed to be apolitical and the PM (like him or not) is the head of a democratic governmnet.

Mazda Baiter

37,069 posts

218 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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SmoothRB said:
I think he is a bloody idiots and a disgrace to the army. The military is supposed to be apolitical and the PM (like him or not) is the head of a democratic governmnet.
Errr,
Johnson Beharry said:
"This is nothing to do with the election, or who I want to be PM. My problem is with him personally, Gordon Brown the man."

Asterix

24,438 posts

258 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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SmoothRB said:
...a democratic governmnet.
I guffawed that notion and farted to show my contept for the comment.

stitched

3,813 posts

203 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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SmoothRB said:
I think he is a bloody idiots and a disgrace to the army. The military is supposed to be apolitical and the PM (like him or not) is the head of a democratic governmnet.
And the war hero in question is a member of the so called democracy and entitled to behave as he sees fit so long as his actions are legal,
Suppose you would advocate him being detained under the terrorism act like the old chap who heckled Blair.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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SmoothRB said:
I think he is a bloody idiots
hehe

SmoothRB

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202 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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stitched said:
SmoothRB said:
I think he is a bloody idiots and a disgrace to the army. The military is supposed to be apolitical and the PM (like him or not) is the head of a democratic governmnet.
And the war hero in question is a member of the so called democracy and entitled to behave as he sees fit so long as his actions are legal,
Suppose you would advocate him being detained under the terrorism act like the old chap who heckled Blair.
He's not there as a citizen but a soldier. He disrespected the office of Prime Minister and thus British Democracy.

Respect the rank not the man.

It's antidemocratic for the military to start having a say in politics. It is what happens in 3rd world countires.

Edited by SmoothRB on Monday 5th April 17:04

Asterix

24,438 posts

258 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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SmoothRB said:
stitched said:
SmoothRB said:
I think he is a bloody idiots and a disgrace to the army. The military is supposed to be apolitical and the PM (like him or not) is the head of a democratic governmnet.
And the war hero in question is a member of the so called democracy and entitled to behave as he sees fit so long as his actions are legal,
Suppose you would advocate him being detained under the terrorism act like the old chap who heckled Blair.
He's not there as a citizen but a soldier. He disrespected the office of Prime Minister and thus British Democracy.

Respect the rank not the man.
Brown and Blair have devalued the office of Prime Minister and is not worthy of respect at the moment - and this thing you call democracy is but a distant memory. I'm ex forces and would have done the same.

I know who I respect more and it isn't the gurning goon or the current state of Parliament. I also suggest you have some more respect for the views of Lance Coporal Beharry VC - in these modern times where the word 'hero' is thrown around, he a bona fide one.

SmoothRB

1,700 posts

202 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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Asterix said:
I know who I respect more and it isn't the gurning goon or the current state of Parliament. I also suggest you have some more respect for the views of Lance Coporal Beharry VC - in these modern times where the word 'hero' is thrown around, he a bona fide one.
No he's an idiot.

What he did degraded himself.

Asterix

24,438 posts

258 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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I think I'm just going to take this advice - 'don't get into an arguement with a fool. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

chris watton

22,547 posts

290 months

Monday 5th April 2010
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SmoothRB said:
Asterix said:
I know who I respect more and it isn't the gurning goon or the current state of Parliament. I also suggest you have some more respect for the views of Lance Coporal Beharry VC - in these modern times where the word 'hero' is thrown around, he a bona fide one.
No he's an idiot.

What he did degraded himself.
I know, Brown is beyond redemption, his degradation of duty to his country is well past the treason line.

I assume you meant Brown?
smile