COLOUR OF A TVR
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Jonny TVR

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4,551 posts

310 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I've had all sorts of coloured TVR's but never a black one. Look at a black one at the moment and always resisted black due to easily showing up chips and swirl marks. Do any of you have any experience to share with me on this?

scotty_d

6,795 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Some work with a DA should sort out most of the swirls ,holograming ect.. as long as the paint is not too bad to start with or you can put it in to a detailer and it will come back better than new so work that in to your price.

And dont use a evil sponge after the paint has been corrected use a wash mit and the 2 bucket method to cut down grit contamination.

Jonny TVR

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4,551 posts

310 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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good advise thanks

scotty_d

6,795 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Should have sent you over here for all you paint correction needs washing ,claying ,wax,polishing info great fourm.

Scotty

www.detailingworld.co.uk

WorAl

10,877 posts

217 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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scotty_d said:
Some work with a DA should sort out most of the swirls ,holograming ect.. as long as the paint is not too bad to start with or you can put it in to a detailer and it will come back better than new so work that in to your price.

And dont use a evil sponge after the paint has been corrected use a wash mit and the 2 bucket method to cut down grit contamination.
I found using a hose with a jet nozzle on and a bucket of warm water/suds much better at getting rid of contamination biggrin

scotty_d

6,795 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Think i suffer from OCD when it comes to car cleaning and DW fourm has not helped spent a small fortune on tools and products over the last few months hehe

Johno

8,593 posts

311 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Black TVR's are now worse to look after than any other black car . . . which makes them an absolute bugger to keep looking really good.

It's the worst colour for showing up any dirt. If you've got silver wheels then they end up looking worse somehow because there's little light from the paint work.

I wouldn't have my Griffith any other colour, but if you do the miles, be prepared for hours of cleaning/polishing/washing to get it looking good.

The satisfaction however, when you do get a black car looking really good I think outweighs the saem effect I can get on a lighter coloured car. It's very satisfying spending the time to get the finish. I think because they show the dirt more than other cars, you end up cleaning it more and because you're cleaning it more you've got to so careful how you clean it.

DW is a great site for learning stuff from and I'd also recommend it. You'll soon know what Snow Foam is, what is a 2 bucket method, what's a dirt gaurd, a wash mitt, a quick detailer, the difference between polish and wax, how to remove swirls (the absolute pain of owning a black car), how to use an orbital polisher etc etc etc .. .

About every 9-12mths I strip all wax etc off my car and re-apply it all correcting what swirls I can as I go. After that you have to pain stakingly clean it carefully to ensure you don't put the swirls back in. However when touring Europe I end up in Supermarche style car washe doing the best I can every couple of days or so as the back of my car get's really oily etc with no cats and lot's of miles.

The products that have made the biggest difference to how my car looks are sealers/glazes that you apply after polishing, then apply a really good wax and then a further sealant. You can then easily use a quick detailer to top up the finish after washes. The sealer/glazes are what add a real depth/wet look finish to the paint and the wax over that just protects it all. The better the glazes are applied the better the look.

HTH

TT Tim

4,168 posts

276 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I love Black cars…


…but, would never have another one, absolute nightmare to keep clean!

Tim

itiejim

1,822 posts

234 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I'm about to do a colour change on my Cerb to black. My painter is using a black primer which should help hide the (inevitable) stonechips which sounds good.

As per one of the the previous posts, there's nothing like a black car when it's clean...

so called

9,160 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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My Tuscan is dark navy blue and yes, it would have looked much better if the undercoat had been dark.

A couple of years ago I bought my wife a nice new black SLK.
Neighbour was renovating his house so it kept getting covered in cement dust.
My wife got someone to clean it and you have never in your entire life seen such a mess.
Swirls !!!! it may as well have been washed by a flock of play school children. yikes Had to just walk away laughing.

Wont be buying another black car in a hurry.

scotty_d

6,795 posts

223 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Here are a few pics of a Supra a mate of mine did in black to give you a idea of what can be done over a day or 2

car was not too dirty but first thing was to Snow foam it to get any lose dirt of then 2 bucket method hand wash dry and Clay bar the whole car and all the other prep work that goes with it.

Couple of before shots not much shine or gloss to the paint







Some close up shots of the swirls




After a good few hours of work you an start to see the deep gloss return




Some final shots of the whole car





And it is one quick car its running 550bhp

Edited by scotty_d on Wednesday 7th April 09:31

DonkeyApple

69,804 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Nothing to add really.

I have a Moonraker black T350 and when clean it looks awesome. When not clean it doesn't.

Lazy punters go for silver. Black must be the choice of champions biggrin

Zippee

14,125 posts

263 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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DonkeyApple said:
Lazy punters go for silver.
Damned right! Means I only need to clean mine once in a blue moon and it leaves me more driving time....

SimonKD

1,386 posts

260 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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My Cerb is Moonraker Black, you can achieve quite a good depth of shine.

Regards
Simon




Edited by SimonKD on Wednesday 7th April 12:37

ferrari spider

1,107 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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SimonKD said:
Though the bonnet looks a little cloudy hehe That car looks fab!! smile

SimonKD

1,386 posts

260 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Thankyou very much for that wink

jessica

6,321 posts

281 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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scotty_d said:
Here are a few pics of a Supra a mate of mine did in black to give you a idea of what can be done over a day or 2

car was not too dirty but first thing was to Snow foam it to get any lose dirt of then 2 bucket method hand wash dry and Clay bar the whole car and all the other prep work that goes with it.

Couple of before shots not much shine or gloss to the paint







Some close up shots of the swirls




After a good few hours of work you an start to see the deep gloss return




Some final shots of the whole car





And it is one quick car its running 550bhp

Edited by scotty_d on Wednesday 7th April 09:31
That's a very rude car..............
I'd give it a zymol anyday............;)

jessica

6,321 posts

281 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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SimonKD said:
My Cerb is Moonraker Black, you can achieve quite a good depth of shine.

Regards
Simon




Edited by SimonKD on Wednesday 7th April 12:37
and i'd zymol that one too. if it wasnt so shiney already..............

looks amazing........

SimonKD

1,386 posts

260 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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jessica said:
SimonKD said:
My Cerb is Moonraker Black, you can achieve quite a good depth of shine.

Regards
Simon




Edited by SimonKD on Wednesday 7th April 12:37
and i'd zymol that one too. if it wasnt so shiney already..............

looks amazing........
And thankyou too.............smile

the jollyrodger

569 posts

207 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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DonkeyApple said:
Nothing to add really.

I have a Moonraker black T350 and when clean it looks awesome. When not clean it doesn't.

Lazy punters go for silver. Black
must be the choice of champions biggrin
I also have a moonraker black t350c and after a couple of hours work it does look great but it is hard work to keep it looking it's best Im using auto glym products.
Another Tvr owner in our club got his Tuscan, dark blue detailed last year and I parked beside him at a show and even with auto glym products, mine looked a lot better in black. I've had other black cars in the past and knew the nightmare they are to keep clean, but spending some time in the garage with my Tvr is the next best thing to driving it.
My elise is in mclaren orange with black trim etc and I think this is an amazing colour combo but even more expensive than reflex paint. Every time I take it out, someone comments on the colour!

Edited by the jollyrodger on Thursday 8th April 05:43