Is there such a thing as a bad car these days?
Discussion
Rawwr said:
Given how even the most woeful piece of Korean tat will come with a 5000 year warranty, reasonable standard specification and tolerable build quality, is it really possible to buy a 'bad' car brand new these days?
Define "bad" and then you'll get a reasonable answer?But I suspect that by defining bad you'll either find that almost all cars are bad in one way or another, or that there probably has never really been a bad car.

Not really. Bad cars would be things like the RO80. Where it wasn't really a question of if it would breakdown but how many engines you would have before you sold it.
I forget the car but there was one that if you used full lock the wheels would rub on the brake pipes eventually resulting in a leak.
A bad car is one where there is a clear basic design problem that stops it being effective/safe. I can't think of any cars on sale that you know are unsafe/going to breakdown due to the design of them.
(Toyota brake/throttle I'd suggest are manufacturing flaws rather than basic design flaws).
I forget the car but there was one that if you used full lock the wheels would rub on the brake pipes eventually resulting in a leak.
A bad car is one where there is a clear basic design problem that stops it being effective/safe. I can't think of any cars on sale that you know are unsafe/going to breakdown due to the design of them.
(Toyota brake/throttle I'd suggest are manufacturing flaws rather than basic design flaws).
The Crack Fox said:
If bad = unreliable, then yes, there are plenty of bad cars still out there.
Well it's all relative isn't it. Any modern car is pretty reliable compared to cars from the 60s. There will always be "bad" cars if "bad" is a relative term not an absolute one. Edited by kambites on Wednesday 7th April 12:11
Everything is relative, but I would nominate the (now replaced) Mk5 Astra. It was uncomfortable, handled poorly (as in, it was unpredictable, especially at speed in the wet), was difficult to drive (stupid indicators, uneven control weights, you couldn't see out of it) rode poorly and was noisy.
Much, much worse then the previous Astra and turned what should have been a fun drive to/through Germany into a massive chore. We had to swap drivers every three hours as the driving position caused such a pain in my leg I couldn't drive it any longer.
In contrast my mum's Mk4 Astra is fine, I would have enjoyed the drive in that.
Much, much worse then the previous Astra and turned what should have been a fun drive to/through Germany into a massive chore. We had to swap drivers every three hours as the driving position caused such a pain in my leg I couldn't drive it any longer.
In contrast my mum's Mk4 Astra is fine, I would have enjoyed the drive in that.
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