Is there such a thing as a bad car these days?
Is there such a thing as a bad car these days?
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Rawwr

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22,722 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Given how even the most woeful piece of Korean tat will come with a 5000 year warranty, reasonable standard specification and tolerable build quality, is it really possible to buy a 'bad' car brand new these days?

edo

16,699 posts

296 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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http://www.ssangyonggb.co.uk/

I could never buy a car I couldn't even pronounce.

Rawwr

Original Poster:

22,722 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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But are they really bad cars?

CampDavid

9,145 posts

229 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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No, it hasn't really been possible for years. Closest I've seen is probably the Toyota IQ, really unstable under heavy braking, but not "bad"

edo

16,699 posts

296 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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I suppose they will get you from A to B. Do they offer a paper bag option?


CampDavid

9,145 posts

229 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Rawwr said:
But are they really bad cars?
To be a bad car, you'd need something that doesn't fulfil the basic requirement of getting you from A to B in a reliable and safe manner. Everything manages this now days

mat205125

17,790 posts

244 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Not on this side of the Atlantic!

whistle

wackojacko

8,581 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Rover eek

hehe

10JH

2,070 posts

225 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Now it's really just cars that aren't as good as their competition.

C8PPO

20,881 posts

234 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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CampDavid said:
No, it hasn't really been possible for years. Closest I've seen is probably the Toyota IQ, really unstable under heavy braking, but not "bad"
Not really a problem at all, then......

Edited by C8PPO on Wednesday 7th April 11:39

krallicious

4,312 posts

236 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Bad, no. Boring/souless/poorly designed, yes.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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wackojacko said:
Rover eek

hehe
Moron rolleyes

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Rawwr said:
Given how even the most woeful piece of Korean tat will come with a 5000 year warranty, reasonable standard specification and tolerable build quality, is it really possible to buy a 'bad' car brand new these days?
Define "bad" and then you'll get a reasonable answer?

But I suspect that by defining bad you'll either find that almost all cars are bad in one way or another, or that there probably has never really been a bad car.

smile

TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Since Rover went? Probably not.

Munter

31,331 posts

272 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Not really. Bad cars would be things like the RO80. Where it wasn't really a question of if it would breakdown but how many engines you would have before you sold it.

I forget the car but there was one that if you used full lock the wheels would rub on the brake pipes eventually resulting in a leak.

A bad car is one where there is a clear basic design problem that stops it being effective/safe. I can't think of any cars on sale that you know are unsafe/going to breakdown due to the design of them.

(Toyota brake/throttle I'd suggest are manufacturing flaws rather than basic design flaws).

kambites

71,682 posts

252 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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The Crack Fox said:
If bad = unreliable, then yes, there are plenty of bad cars still out there.
Well it's all relative isn't it. Any modern car is pretty reliable compared to cars from the 60s. There will always be "bad" cars if "bad" is a relative term not an absolute one.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 7th April 12:11

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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The Crack Fox said:
If bad = unreliable, then yes, there are plenty of bad cars still out there.
Surely you are not being gullible and taking those consumer surveys at face value are you? laugh

bazking69

8,620 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Oh, bad cars are still in abundance. They may be reliable, and come with spec, and a long warranty, and do the job well, but there is no hiding how shockingly bad some cars are.

300bhp/ton

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221 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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bazking69 said:
Oh, bad cars are still in abundance. They may be reliable, and come with spec, and a long warranty, and do the job well, but there is no hiding how shockingly bad some cars are.
Example being...

varsas

4,076 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Everything is relative, but I would nominate the (now replaced) Mk5 Astra. It was uncomfortable, handled poorly (as in, it was unpredictable, especially at speed in the wet), was difficult to drive (stupid indicators, uneven control weights, you couldn't see out of it) rode poorly and was noisy.

Much, much worse then the previous Astra and turned what should have been a fun drive to/through Germany into a massive chore. We had to swap drivers every three hours as the driving position caused such a pain in my leg I couldn't drive it any longer.

In contrast my mum's Mk4 Astra is fine, I would have enjoyed the drive in that.