shutter island

[E21_Ross]

anyone else seen this film? what did you think? just watched it and thought it was very good at first i thought the plot was weak (for the 1st 20mins or so) then as the story developed it was just a really good psychological thriller.

cracking film IMO, another good film from scorsese.

[Four Cofffee]

I thought it was pretty good too, and had that 'Sixth Sense' dimension. Took me until the end to realise and then lots of bits I thought were weak fell into place. Mrs $C had it cracked much earlier. Probably best at a second watching.

[curtisl]

I have just finished watching it. I have been putting it off for a bit as I heard some disappointing reviews and I am a big fan of Scorsese films. I have got to say that this is truly one of the best films that i have seen for quite some time. personally I haven't a bad word to be said against the film. the mood was well portrayed and very Hitchcock-esque, the ending could be seen coming but has you second guessing yourself the closer it gets to the end.

It's hard to talk about the film without giving it away but I would say that it is a must see for any movie lovers. I have to say that I think the film is actually under-rated.

[anonymous-user]

I saw it and thought it was great.

• **MINOR SPOILERS BELOW****

Early on in the film i found it weird that..

1) The marshall's smokes had gone missing
2) The prison guards were all seemingly bored/put off by the marshalls' coming to the island
3) The "partner" couldn't unhook his gun easily

But then as I got more into the film I thought about thse sorts of things less and less and got duped, as intended.

[E21_Ross]

curtisl said:

I have just finished watching it. I have been putting it off for a bit as I heard some disappointing reviews and I am a big fan of Scorsese films. I have got to say that this is truly one of the best films that i have seen for quite some time. personally I haven't a bad word to be said against the film. the mood was well portrayed and very Hitchcock-esque, the ending could be seen coming but has you second guessing yourself the closer it gets to the end.

It's hard to talk about the film without giving it away but I would say that it is a must see for any movie lovers. I have to say that I think the film is actually under-rated.

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you say you could see the ending coming....but the thing which really got me was, after the film, thinking about the ending. was it really as it seemed? i'm trying hard to explain it without truly ruining it for someone reading (despite the spoiler alert). the ending was reasonably obvious, but was that obvious ending real in the sense that....was the story true or was it not?

hopefully that makes some form of sense.

[anonymous-user]

E21_Ross said:

curtisl said:

I have just finished watching it. I have been putting it off for a bit as I heard some disappointing reviews and I am a big fan of Scorsese films. I have got to say that this is truly one of the best films that i have seen for quite some time. personally I haven't a bad word to be said against the film. the mood was well portrayed and very Hitchcock-esque, the ending could be seen coming but has you second guessing yourself the closer it gets to the end.

It's hard to talk about the film without giving it away but I would say that it is a must see for any movie lovers. I have to say that I think the film is actually under-rated.

• ********SPOILER ALERT****************

• ********SPOILER ALERT****************

you say you could see the ending coming....but the thing which really got me was, after the film, thinking about the ending. was it really as it seemed? i'm trying hard to explain it without truly ruining it for someone reading (despite the spoiler alert). the ending was reasonably obvious, but was that obvious ending real in the sense that....was the story true or was it not?

hopefully that makes some form of sense.

There's a bog debate going on over at IMDB as to whether the story as you are led to believe is accurate, or the story which is "revealed" is accurate, if you know what I mean.

Just shows how good a director MS is.

[E21_Ross]

Nyphur said:

E21_Ross said:

curtisl said:

I have just finished watching it. I have been putting it off for a bit as I heard some disappointing reviews and I am a big fan of Scorsese films. I have got to say that this is truly one of the best films that i have seen for quite some time. personally I haven't a bad word to be said against the film. the mood was well portrayed and very Hitchcock-esque, the ending could be seen coming but has you second guessing yourself the closer it gets to the end.

It's hard to talk about the film without giving it away but I would say that it is a must see for any movie lovers. I have to say that I think the film is actually under-rated.

• ********SPOILER ALERT****************

• ********SPOILER ALERT****************

you say you could see the ending coming....but the thing which really got me was, after the film, thinking about the ending. was it really as it seemed? i'm trying hard to explain it without truly ruining it for someone reading (despite the spoiler alert). the ending was reasonably obvious, but was that obvious ending real in the sense that....was the story true or was it not?

hopefully that makes some form of sense.

There's a bog debate going on over at IMDB as to whether the story as you are led to believe is accurate, or the story which is "revealed" is accurate, if you know what I mean.

Just shows how good a director MS is.

it's what makes it a brilliant film instead of a very good film for me.

[FraserLFA]

Saw it last night, still not sure what i think. Huge twists every so often, but it's kind of like ending a film with "And then he woke up and it was all a dream." Closure would have been nice

[curtisl]

• *************HUGE SPOILER ALERT**********************

So are you saying that he is not actually the crazy man they say he is?

I can't see how he would be, there would be so much left as unknown if that was the intended ending.

Personally i think at the end, he has realised what he is and what has happened in his life and knows that if he continues with his alter-ego they will lobotomise him. He chooses the lobotomy as he says 'what is better dying as a good man or living as a monster?' implying that if he has the lobotomy, he will forget what he has done and what has happened, will live a peaceful life and die happy.

In saying that it is then agreeing that they are doing the brain surgery that Ben Kingsley was saying was not carried out and if he was truely still crazy, would he choose the lobotomy?

[E21_Ross]

FraserLFA said:

Saw it last night, still not sure what i think. Huge twists every so often, but it's kind of like ending a film with "And then he woke up and it was all a dream." Closure would have been nice

• ********spoiler alert***********

that's exactly what i'm saying.....was it all a dream? or was his reality true, but they drove it into his mind that he had been there for 2 years? you can't actually know.....

[FraserLFA]

E21_Ross said:

FraserLFA said:

Saw it last night, still not sure what i think. Huge twists every so often, but it's kind of like ending a film with "And then he woke up and it was all a dream." Closure would have been nice

• ********spoiler alert***********

that's exactly what i'm saying.....was it all a dream? or was his reality true, but they drove it into his mind that he had been there for 2 years? you can't actually know.....

Yeah. Which is fairly annoying. I'm not a huge fan of cliffhanger endings and for a film like that, where the end would have shed a lot of light on the rest of the film, it would have been nice to know what was ACTUALLY going on. It was a good film, and the bits like the doctor in the cliff make you wonder if he was really mental, or whether he's just been convinced, hence them making him admit they were right at the end, but some answers would have been nice, even if it's just enough to allow us the piece the rest of it together.

[E21_Ross]

FraserLFA said:

E21_Ross said:

FraserLFA said:

Saw it last night, still not sure what i think. Huge twists every so often, but it's kind of like ending a film with "And then he woke up and it was all a dream." Closure would have been nice

• ********spoiler alert***********

that's exactly what i'm saying.....was it all a dream? or was his reality true, but they drove it into his mind that he had been there for 2 years? you can't actually know.....

Yeah. Which is fairly annoying. I'm not a huge fan of cliffhanger endings and for a film like that, where the end would have shed a lot of light on the rest of the film, it would have been nice to know what was ACTUALLY going on. It was a good film, and the bits like the doctor in the cliff make you wonder if he was really mental, or whether he's just been convinced, hence them making him admit they were right at the end, but some answers would have been nice, even if it's just enough to allow us the piece the rest of it together.

i get where you're coming from. guess it depends what you like from a film. now, a crap ending on a great film was in no country for old men. cracking film, but the ending was so st.

[FraserLFA]

E21_Ross said:

FraserLFA said:

E21_Ross said:

FraserLFA said:

Saw it last night, still not sure what i think. Huge twists every so often, but it's kind of like ending a film with "And then he woke up and it was all a dream." Closure would have been nice

• ********spoiler alert***********

that's exactly what i'm saying.....was it all a dream? or was his reality true, but they drove it into his mind that he had been there for 2 years? you can't actually know.....

Yeah. Which is fairly annoying. I'm not a huge fan of cliffhanger endings and for a film like that, where the end would have shed a lot of light on the rest of the film, it would have been nice to know what was ACTUALLY going on. It was a good film, and the bits like the doctor in the cliff make you wonder if he was really mental, or whether he's just been convinced, hence them making him admit they were right at the end, but some answers would have been nice, even if it's just enough to allow us the piece the rest of it together.

i get where you're coming from. guess it depends what you like from a film. now, a crap ending on a great film was in no country for old men. cracking film, but the ending was so st.

Yeah, it's things like that which i find really annoying. The movie was really good and i think it could have been amazing, were it not for an ending that didn't really clarify anything.

[E21_Ross]

FraserLFA said:

Yeah, it's things like that which i find really annoying. The movie was really good and i think it could have been amazing, were it not for an ending that didn't really clarify anything.

shame. but i guess they can't cater for every one.

[FraserLFA]

E21_Ross said:

FraserLFA said:

Yeah, it's things like that which i find really annoying. The movie was really good and i think it could have been amazing, were it not for an ending that didn't really clarify anything.

shame. but i guess they can't cater for every one.

Very true. Still, i'll buy it when it comes out on DVD because it was a very good film.

[redtwin]

I guess I am on my own in saying I didn't think it was all that good. I suppose I am at fault for opening this thread before watching it though I only got as far as the first few of posts indicating there was a Sixth Sense type twist, so it wasn't too far into the movie before I figured it out for myself.

Once that happened I think the movie was over for me. Maybe i was expecting too much being a Scorsese movie and all the rave reviews.

Did anyone else notice the glaring error in the scene where they are interviewing the patients?. The woman who writes in his notebook asks for a glass of water. When she gets the water she raises her right hand to drink, but her hand is empty and she only pretends to drink. I thought that was part of the script suggesting suspension of reality or some such, but then the next scene shows her putting the glass down on the table with her left hand. Minor issue I suppose, but its hard to see how they could have missed that in editing.

[E21_Ross]

redtwin said:

its hard to see how they could have missed that in editing.

can't say i noticed it, however, it's hard to see how the woman didn't notice that she wasn't holding a cup in the first place!!? maybe she needs going to a mental institution?

[FraserLFA]

redtwin said:

Did anyone else notice the glaring error

I noticed that and wasn't sure what was going on. I also agree about the obviousness of the twist at the end. Pretty soon you were guessing what could happen.

[john_p]

There were lots of editing errors through the film (another one I can think of is in the first fire scene with his wife). It must have been deliberate

I really enjoyed the film, it left you guessing!

[FraserLFA]

john_p said:

There were lots of editing errors through the film (another one I can think of is in the first fire scene with his wife). It must have been deliberate

I really enjoyed the film, it left you guessing!

I don't think i noticed that