Starting an S6 (Tamora) from cold - opinions pls...
Starting an S6 (Tamora) from cold - opinions pls...
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5tevo

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443 posts

226 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Morning all.

I know the importance of being super careful with the S6 from cold, and have been religious about doing so with the Tam, so much so my wife thinks I am paranoid and a little bonkers....women what do they know anyway right!

The question is this, I heard from someone that the S6's are better started and driven straight away (gently) rather than being left to sit for say 5/10 mins before then being driven gently to temp.....Which is best?

I have no problem either way just don't want to be driving her prematurely

Thanks in advance

Stevo

edgeydt50

39 posts

200 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Start it, wait a bit to get the oil going and then drive it. just dont take it about 3/3.5k revs until its up to temp. Leaving it on the drive will do it no good if it sat on idle.
Chris

5tevo

Original Poster:

443 posts

226 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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What I have been doing up to now is starting and making sure the revs don't drop below 1k for a couple of mins then driving her making sure I don't go above 2k until oil at 60 then opening her up a bit more until at running temp.

Sounds like I may be being too cautious when I do pull away.

edgeydt50

39 posts

200 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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and this is where i got the info as well as another post on here...http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/tvr-chat/119549-tvr-engine-warming.html

edgeydt50

39 posts

200 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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and this is where i got the info as well as another post on here...http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/tvr-chat/119549-tvr-engine-warming.html

madbadger

11,752 posts

273 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Sounds about right.

sat on the drive warming up will only warm up the oil. Not the gearbox / tyres / brakes etc.

I start and will drive right away. Keep under 2000 / maybe 2500 until 40 then will occasionally go up to 3000 until 60. I've heard labouring the engine will be as bad as over revving it.

I think it is better to vary the revs a bit rather than just sitting at one engine speed for a while. Easier to do on the road too.

darkmark07

702 posts

227 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Received wisdom is start with minimal (ideally no) throttle.

Hold the revs at around 1500rpm for a few seconds to get the oil pressure up and oil circulating around the top of the engine then drive off fairly promptly.

Oil Temp
<40 2,500rpm Max
<50 3,000rpm Max
<60 4,000rpm Max
<70 5,000rpm Max
>70 Happy days

The oil temp sensor is on the tank at the front of the engine and is susceptible to cooling when moving along. In very cold weather or when on the motorway you might struggle to get above 50 degrees - be sensible but the engine should be up to full temperature after having been driven for 20 minutes or so.

HTH

Mark


TVR_owner

3,349 posts

220 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Pretty much as Madbadger. Start without any throttle, then once fired, gentle throttle application to get engine to 1200rpm ish for maybe 10 seconds and then drive off.

Be carefull not to exceed 2500 rpm till beyond 40 degress, but keep it above 1500 too. Warm up after that I use 3000 max till beyond 50 degrees, then 4000 max till beyond 60 degrees.

Targarama

14,784 posts

312 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Start up and drive off. But its not a race, if you need to sit for a minute while you pull out of the garage, fasten your seatbelt, let wife get in and belt up, trundle up road at 1500rpm wait for automatic gates to open on street then drive off then what choice do you have anyway? (OK, that's my routine).

Idling is very hard on the valvetrain when not lubricated. If you've ever installed a camshaft then you'll know.

5tevo

Original Poster:

443 posts

226 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Fantastic chaps, thanks very much!

Shame I am stuck in the office today, lovely morning for it....keep getting busted glancing out the window by my team....she does look bl00dy lovely though smile


shep1001

4,620 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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I start my Tam and drive right away. Holding the revs at 1200-1500 rpm for the first 20 secs or so to get the oil moving. Don't spank it until the oil is hot so keep her under 3000rpm.

The oil temp will always read low when driving as the air temp cools things a little but this is on your side as it will always be a little hotter than indicated.

shep

Lensey

2,526 posts

312 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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And you could get one of these;

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Been using one for the last month or so and its brilliant!

Zippee

14,125 posts

263 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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As you've probably noticed from replies on this thread there are many similar but different variations to warming up so I'll confuse matters even more and add my method;

I roll her out the garage rather than start so I don't leave her idling whilst shutting the door.
Clutch down, turn the key with no throttle.
Wait a couple of seconds and gently bring the revs to around 1800rpm for 10 seconds to push the oil to the top of the engine.
Move off, keeping revs below (but as close to in order to not labour the engine) 2500 rpm until my oil hits 40 deg.
Then as above but 3500rpm until she hits 70deg then its play time.

Obviously in this weather it may take not show 70 due to the sensor being in the cold airflow so after 20 minutes it's pretty safe to assume all is good.