How much money do you give beggers?
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I came across one the other day who had cleverly taken up a spot near the pay machines in a multi-story.
He made it his job to be 'helpful'. "5 pences don't work" he told me, "you can take the stairs that way" he said. It was obviously a little 'niche' thing he had going on; a kind of pseudo-job.
So I gave him £1 of my loose change.
Now I was wondering how much money he makes and if I gave him too much. I mean it was a city centre multi-story. I figure he could get easily 30 people an hour coming past those machines. If everyone only gives him 20 pence, then that is £6 a hour. If he does a 12 hour day, that is £72 a day. That is £26 grand if he works a whole year with only a handful of days off. Tax free of course.
So from now on I am really going to think twice about giving loose change away.
He made it his job to be 'helpful'. "5 pences don't work" he told me, "you can take the stairs that way" he said. It was obviously a little 'niche' thing he had going on; a kind of pseudo-job.
So I gave him £1 of my loose change.
Now I was wondering how much money he makes and if I gave him too much. I mean it was a city centre multi-story. I figure he could get easily 30 people an hour coming past those machines. If everyone only gives him 20 pence, then that is £6 a hour. If he does a 12 hour day, that is £72 a day. That is £26 grand if he works a whole year with only a handful of days off. Tax free of course.
So from now on I am really going to think twice about giving loose change away.
good for you...
If everyone thought like that instead of just giving a bit of spare change that you would probably never use and throw in a jar then the world is a better place.
NOT...
Who cares what he earns, people give them money, what they do with it doesnt bother me... if they want to drink or drug themselves to death then so be it, as long as they dont bother or harrass me.
Better giving them money than some of the benefits people out there.
Yes I do give my spare change to them sometimes, otherwise it just goes in the jar at home and I dont use it.
If everyone thought like that instead of just giving a bit of spare change that you would probably never use and throw in a jar then the world is a better place.
NOT...
Who cares what he earns, people give them money, what they do with it doesnt bother me... if they want to drink or drug themselves to death then so be it, as long as they dont bother or harrass me.
Better giving them money than some of the benefits people out there.
Yes I do give my spare change to them sometimes, otherwise it just goes in the jar at home and I dont use it.
A friend of mine was walking to work with his mate, every day they passed the same chap sat begging with his dog. So this lad gave the begger a tin and on he went. Begger got a tad annoyed when he reaslised it was a tin of food for his dog.
I usually give some spare change as long as they are not making a pest of themselvs
I usually give some spare change as long as they are not making a pest of themselvs
There is a gypsy looking woman selling the big issue every day at the same spot on the street. Always bugs me everytime I walk past with "big issue, big issue", and tries to make eye contact. I don't like that unwanted, grasping solicitation. I find those types of people pollute the urban-scape. OTOH have come across homeless people before who seem genuinely down on their luck.
MX7 said:
I was in Kensington last week and saw a beggar. A couple of hours later, the same beggar was queuing up to get a bus. I didn't realise beggars commuted.
There used to be a beggar that commuted to Lowestoft from one of the outlying villages with his two dogs - sympathy begging?I stopped at a garage yesterday to use the cash machine, sitting next to it was a bloke, late 20's, decent clothes and healthy looking. As I took out my cash he said "Can you give me some money please". I'd just worked 10 hours and was in considerable pain as I have a broken toe, I'm working anyway because I need to keep my business busy for the sake of my employees who are all also working hard to pay their bills and feed their families.
I wanted to punch him in the face.
Instead I said "I'm pretty busy actually mate, do you want a day's work tomorrow?"
He said "f
k that!" and laughed.
How much do you reckon he is making sitting there all day, on top of his benefits of course?
I'm in support of people in need getting help from my taxes, this c*nt however needs a good kicking.
Am I a fascist?
I wanted to punch him in the face.
Instead I said "I'm pretty busy actually mate, do you want a day's work tomorrow?"
He said "f
k that!" and laughed.How much do you reckon he is making sitting there all day, on top of his benefits of course?
I'm in support of people in need getting help from my taxes, this c*nt however needs a good kicking.
Am I a fascist?
Lefty Two Drams said:
I don't.
I once bought a beggar a burger and chips though.
And I once punched one (a different) for pishing on the street in front of my toddler.
Riiiight... so you assaulted a begger for urinating.... what sort of lesson do we think that teaches your toddler????? violence is not the option... I once bought a beggar a burger and chips though.
And I once punched one (a different) for pishing on the street in front of my toddler.
Dupont666 said:
good for you...
If everyone thought like that instead of just giving a bit of spare change that you would probably never use and throw in a jar then the world is a better place.
NOT...
Who cares what he earns, people give them money, what they do with it doesnt bother me... if they want to drink or drug themselves to death then so be it, as long as they dont bother or harrass me.
Better giving them money than some of the benefits people out there.
Yes I do give my spare change to them sometimes, otherwise it just goes in the jar at home and I dont use it.
they are probably on benefits too.If everyone thought like that instead of just giving a bit of spare change that you would probably never use and throw in a jar then the world is a better place.
NOT...
Who cares what he earns, people give them money, what they do with it doesnt bother me... if they want to drink or drug themselves to death then so be it, as long as they dont bother or harrass me.
Better giving them money than some of the benefits people out there.
Yes I do give my spare change to them sometimes, otherwise it just goes in the jar at home and I dont use it.
when i worked in central birmingham a few years ago we got talking to the beggars. most had a place to stay and signed on. one had a car too. so with the begging , dole and shoplifting they would do well if they did not spend it all on drugs
SmoothRB said:
There is a gypsy looking woman selling the big issue every day at the same spot on the street. Always bugs me everytime I walk past with "big issue, big issue", and tries to make eye contact. I don't like that unwanted, grasping solicitation. I find those types of people pollute the urban-scape. OTOH have come across homeless people before who seem genuinely down on their luck.
Shows how much you know. Amazing how people make assessments without knowledge. NEVER assume anything.Only 'genuine' homeless can sell the Big Issue. They have to 'buy' copies (85p each) and then they are free to keep the profit (mag is £1.70). Some of the content is far better than the crap like Hello OK and other celeb sh*t on the newstands).
The others who you think are genuine homeless are the real beggar/scroungers so you got it totally the wrong way round.
Take it from me, some of the 'others' make their 'living' begging.
If you fill their caps, tins, with your loose change you are just exacerbating the situation.
Think about it.
Would 'you' sit your ass on a wet, cold, pavement, hour on end, if it didn't pay?
Simples.
Offer them a nice hot cup of coffee or tea and you get a reaction like FO, you know they are interested in one thing only... making their living.
dandarez said:
SmoothRB said:
There is a gypsy looking woman selling the big issue every day at the same spot on the street. Always bugs me everytime I walk past with "big issue, big issue", and tries to make eye contact. I don't like that unwanted, grasping solicitation. I find those types of people pollute the urban-scape. OTOH have come across homeless people before who seem genuinely down on their luck.
Shows how much you know. Amazing how people make assessments without knowledge. NEVER assume anything.Only 'genuine' homeless can sell the Big Issue. They have to 'buy' copies (85p each) and then they are free to keep the profit (mag is £1.70). Some of the content is far better than the crap like Hello OK and other celeb sh*t on the newstands).
The others who you think are genuine homeless are the real beggar/scroungers so you got it totally the wrong way round.
Take it from me, some of the 'others' make their 'living' begging.
If you fill their caps, tins, with your loose change you are just exacerbating the situation.
Think about it.
Would 'you' sit your ass on a wet, cold, pavement, hour on end, if it didn't pay?
Simples.
Offer them a nice hot cup of coffee or tea and you get a reaction like FO, you know they are interested in one thing only... making their living.
Why do people come to the UK to beg and be homeless?
I was teaching in the arse of Cornwall "St Austell" and lunchtime, I popped out for some grub. This leper type said "got any spare change mate for some food" I said "hang on" and popped into the bakery and came out with a couple of pasties. As I presented him with one, he started moaning. So I said, "Ok, I'll have 2 then" and walked off.
Seagulls in abandoned chick's clothing.
Seagulls in abandoned chick's clothing.
tegwin said:
Lefty Two Drams said:
I don't.
I once bought a beggar a burger and chips though.
And I once punched one (a different) for pishing on the street in front of my toddler.
Riiiight... so you assaulted a begger for urinating.... what sort of lesson do we think that teaches your toddler????? violence is not the option... I once bought a beggar a burger and chips though.
And I once punched one (a different) for pishing on the street in front of my toddler.
I give tramps the craziest things when I'm intoxicated. I just find it very amusing (at the time..).
Best to date has been 18 bags of revels.
Another was £10 for a didgeridoo lesson.
Just 3 weeks ago I gave some tramp £10 to see his reaction. His reaction was that of indifference.
I almost took it back and ran.
Maybe we should start giving tramps larger amounts of money? How much heroin is needed to ensure and OD?
Best to date has been 18 bags of revels.
Another was £10 for a didgeridoo lesson.
Just 3 weeks ago I gave some tramp £10 to see his reaction. His reaction was that of indifference.
I almost took it back and ran.
Maybe we should start giving tramps larger amounts of money? How much heroin is needed to ensure and OD?
Lefty Two Drams said:
tegwin said:
Lefty Two Drams said:
I don't.
I once bought a beggar a burger and chips though.
And I once punched one (a different) for pishing on the street in front of my toddler.
Riiiight... so you assaulted a begger for urinating.... what sort of lesson do we think that teaches your toddler????? violence is not the option... I once bought a beggar a burger and chips though.
And I once punched one (a different) for pishing on the street in front of my toddler.
*Ba-dum'tish
Sometimes I will, but mostly I won't.
I was in a foul mood on my way into work one morning and this scruffy bd came up to me and said "Excuse me, do you have any change....."
I really don't know why I bothered, however I pulled out some small change from my pocket and literally threw it at the bloke saying something about being sick of his type of scrouging fkers.
Anyway, he went on to explain how he only wanted change of a fiver for the parking machine.
Felt like a right, but still laugh at it.
I was in a foul mood on my way into work one morning and this scruffy b
d came up to me and said "Excuse me, do you have any change....."I really don't know why I bothered, however I pulled out some small change from my pocket and literally threw it at the bloke saying something about being sick of his type of scrouging f
kers.Anyway, he went on to explain how he only wanted change of a fiver for the parking machine.
Felt like a right
, but still laugh at it.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff