UK v US salaries?
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dvs_dave

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9,040 posts

252 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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So, I've been offered a job in Chicago for a reasonable amount over the going rate in my field so all good there.

The question I have is, how do you compare a US salary (Chicago) to it's UK (London) equivalent? For example, what would say a $100k p.a. be the equivalent of in the UK in real terms? Is there a general % rule of thumb or something?

Any pointers would be useful as I obviously don't want to accept and then find I'm out of pocket.

callisto

62 posts

200 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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The true barometer of currencies, inflation, and cost of living is the Big Mac index.

You are getting 100,000 Big Macs a year in the USA

If you earned £100,000 in the UK then you are only getting 50,000 Big Macs.

Therefore $100,000 = £200,000. Seems like good pay to me!


AJS-

15,366 posts

263 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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That could be slightly misleading, unless you intend to buy 100,000 big macs. It's a somewhat useful indicator sometimes, but like all statistics it's floored, and in this instance I would say massively so.

There are a few websites but I can't find them.

It really though depends what you want to spend your money on. If you spend a lot on petrol, housing and big macs then you are very likely to be better off in Chicago. If you spend it on European holidays then London is probably a better bet. I can't think of anything else that might be cheaper or more accessible from London but I'm sure others can.


BigBen

12,150 posts

257 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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I thought a good rule of thumb was $100 has rougly the same local purchasing power as £100 irrespective of exchange rate.

louiebaby

10,919 posts

218 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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One thing to take into account if relocating for a long period of time is the health and education costs for you and your kids.

In the UK I think we pay more tax, but have the NHS and heavily subsidised university education, in the US, you have to get medical insurance and save to send your kids to college.

The Big Mac index can be pretty useful though! As some said, it depends on what you like to spend your earnings on, how close your ties are with friends and family in the UK, and so on.

bogie

17,001 posts

299 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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yeah dont underestimate health insurance costs

we moan about paying 7% NI over here, but in the US you could easily spend 20% of your salary on equivalent cover

hence why most companies offer it as part of the employment package .....

simonej

5,265 posts

207 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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When I lived out there the exchange rate was about $1.80 to £1.00.

Effectively my salary in US Dollars bought me a lifestyle equivalent to the lifestyle i would get in the UK on the same number of pounds. So for instance a $50k salary was like having £50k in the UK.

Edit: I did skimp on healthcare though. Bit of a risk but it is pretty expensive for decent cover.





Edited by simonej on Friday 9th April 12:24

aeropilot

40,321 posts

254 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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bogie said:
we moan about paying 7% NI over here, but in the US you could easily spend 20% of your salary on equivalent cover
yes

A friend in California pays a frightening amount per month for cover for him, his missus and 2 kids eek

Car ins is expensive over there too.

But, you have to offset cheaper (generally) rent etc., cheaper fuel, cheaper cars, cheaper food...so, swings and roundabouts.

callisto

62 posts

200 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Actually, my Big Mac index thing is pretty poor. It seems a Big Mac is around $3.57 in the USA and is £2.29 in the UK. This would equal near parity. http://www.oanda.com/currency/big-mac-index

Though I swear my last Big Mac I purchased only 6 months ago was around £1.89, and everyone I know who went to the 'States on holiday, states that the Big Mac was only $1.00 and was bigger too! wink

Perhaps real estate is a better measure.

BigBen

12,150 posts

257 months

Monday 12th April 2010
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callisto said:
Actually, my Big Mac index thing is pretty poor. It seems a Big Mac is around $3.57 in the USA and is £2.29 in the UK. This would equal near parity. http://www.oanda.com/currency/big-mac-index

Though I swear my last Big Mac I purchased only 6 months ago was around £1.89, and everyone I know who went to the 'States on holiday, states that the Big Mac was only $1.00 and was bigger too! wink

Perhaps real estate is a better measure.
Prices of stuff like Big Macs is not fixed across the USA as they are in the UK so it is not a great indicator. Starbucks is another example the prices vary wildly from state to state and sometimes even branch to branch.

Ben

Jakg

4,014 posts

195 months

Monday 12th April 2010
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aeropilot said:
Car ins is expensive over there too.
Really? AFAIK it's on a per driver basis, and the car isn't really so important - so for $400 you can drive whatever you want at age 20 etc.

dvs_dave

Original Poster:

9,040 posts

252 months

Tuesday 13th April 2010
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swerni said:
AJS- said:
That could be slightly misleading, unless you intend to buy 100,000 big macs.
You've not met Dave have you?

If anyone's capable,he is wink
Oi! Are you saying I'm fat or something??? furious




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Edited by dvs_dave on Tuesday 13th April 01:57

Boozy

2,427 posts

246 months

Tuesday 13th April 2010
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I moved to the US with work in December, I'd say a better way is to do Dollar to Pound as someone mentioned, I have a WAY higher standard of life here than I did in the UK, I'm on the top health scheme from my company and it's about $120 a month for the wife and I. I haven't looked back for what it's worth, although we miss our families, but, that said, they can be here in six hours so it's not a massive deal to be honest. Skype makes things easier as well as far as keeping in touch goes and we seem to have none stop visitors! Mail me if you want more info on moving etc.

jeff m

4,066 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th April 2010
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Cost of living varies incrediably State to State.
You should make your comparisons with Chicago only, unless of course you want drive in from Wisconsin each daysmile

If you do search on the the area where your company is located you can get plenty of data.
Like; median houshold income, add 20% as they usually appear low (to me)
Racial make up of area.
Education level of residents.
Ratio of single family homes to apartments.

You will come across some housing that will appear very cheap....there is a good reason....avoid.

As a newbie house purchase requires 25% up front.

I would say the Pound for Dollar comments are true on disposable income only.


louiebaby

10,919 posts

218 months

Tuesday 13th April 2010
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jeff m said:
You will come across some housing that will appear very cheap....there is a good reason....avoid.
Google Streetview is proving to be quite useful if looking to see what the area is like before you go somewhere...

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