Discussion
May not be Yorkshire...but he is Mr Motec
http://www.epsmotorsport.com/contact.html
If he isnt closed enough, get in touch with Andy Nichols over at AET Turbo's in Wakefield.
http://www.epsmotorsport.com/contact.html
If he isnt closed enough, get in touch with Andy Nichols over at AET Turbo's in Wakefield.
stevieturbo said:
He's in Northampton, or at least his phone number is. His website gives no other clue as to location.
SamBorgman said:
does anyone know of a good mapper
that can do live mapping, rather than mapping via a dyno.
Good mapper, working without a dyno? .... does not compute
All mapping with aftermarket ecu's is live.that can do live mapping, rather than mapping via a dyno.
Good mapper, working without a dyno? .... does not compute
That f
king gay term "live mapping" came about from ancient Ford people who couldnt make changes to the programming whilst the engine was running. And it irritates teh fk out of me when I hear the term, as its usually from people who havent a notion about such matters in the first place !!!So that aside if you can map a car on a dyno, you can map it on the road. Doesnt make any difference. Each has benefits, and each downsides.
I can't think of a technically sound method of setting the ignition timing on the road.
That is unless you want to fit high speed pressure sensors into the combustion chambers.
Aside from it not being technically possible to do a good job mapping on the road it's also absolutely lethal, innocent people die because of it, no joke.
That is unless you want to fit high speed pressure sensors into the combustion chambers.
Aside from it not being technically possible to do a good job mapping on the road it's also absolutely lethal, innocent people die because of it, no joke.
Edited by SamBorgman on Thursday 15th April 14:38
SamBorgman said:
I can't think of a technically sound method of setting the ignition timing on the road.
That is unless you want to fit high speed pressure sensors into the combustion chambers.
I read once of an interesting experiment where they had been looking at ways of obtaining the same data without the need to drill extra holes into the combustion chamber.That is unless you want to fit high speed pressure sensors into the combustion chambers.
They found that replacing the standard spark plug washer with a special one containing a piezoelectric element did the trick. Apparently the deformation of the head under combustion pressure, though minuscule, was nevertheless sufficient to produce a usable signal from such a sensor.
This inspired me to experiment with my bike to see if I could do the same thing. Not being able to fabricate custom piezo washers, I tried a different approach of attaching strain gauges to the head - easy on an air cooled single cylinder two stroke. Unfortunately the signal was far too small to distinguish from the noise.
SamBorgman said:
I can't think of a technically sound method of setting the ignition timing on the road.
That is unless you want to fit high speed pressure sensors into the combustion chambers.
Aside from it not being technically possible to do a good job mapping on the road it's also absolutely lethal, innocent people die because of it, no joke.
Yes, there are obvious risks involved. But when there are no suitable dyno facilities anywhere near...sometimes you just do what you have to.That is unless you want to fit high speed pressure sensors into the combustion chambers.
Aside from it not being technically possible to do a good job mapping on the road it's also absolutely lethal, innocent people die because of it, no joke.
Edited by SamBorgman on Thursday 15th April 14:38
I've managed ok so far, despite it being a hated method lol
Any chance of you flying your dyno over here for me to play with my car :P
Edited by stevieturbo on Thursday 15th April 19:32
stevieturbo said:
SamBorgman said:
I can't think of a technically sound method of setting the ignition timing on the road.
That is unless you want to fit high speed pressure sensors into the combustion chambers.
Aside from it not being technically possible to do a good job mapping on the road it's also absolutely lethal, innocent people die because of it, no joke.
Yes, there are obvious risks involved. But when there are no suitable dyno facilities anywhere near...sometimes you just do what you have to.That is unless you want to fit high speed pressure sensors into the combustion chambers.
Aside from it not being technically possible to do a good job mapping on the road it's also absolutely lethal, innocent people die because of it, no joke.
Edited by SamBorgman on Thursday 15th April 14:38
I've managed ok so far, despite it being a hated method lol
Any chance of you flying your dyno over here for me to play with my car :P
Edited by stevieturbo on Thursday 15th April 19:32
, or you could bring the car to the dyno, then you'd get the benefit of the dyno cell as well 
Gassing Station | Engines & Drivetrain | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff