Alignment, Alignment, Alignment!!!!!
Alignment, Alignment, Alignment!!!!!
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NeoVR

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437 posts

193 months

Saturday 10th April 2010
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I know theres probably already a million threads on this... but heres another!..

I had my '5 suspension geo setup today by Nigel Langs in Bolton (see wiki for contact) - they are reccomended by Tony@WIM and have access to the various WIM settings... i found the details off the back of a GB on Nutz last year

I had mine setup for fast road.. when the car was put on the machine, pretty much every single reading was in the red!..
Now its like a completely different car... its even taken the edge off my silly-hard bilstein shocks.. it goes round corners on rails where as before the back end felt a bit nervous.. my plan for the day was to get alignment done, then wash the car and fix a couple of bits.. instead i left Langs at 12.30 and only got back home half an hour ago.. I LOVE THIS CAR! biggrin


Quite simply.. if you have never had your geo done, GET IT DONE!.. if you think your car handles nice now, it will be much much better with proper geo!!.. im sure there will be more '5 owners to back this up... geo is possibly the single biggest-improving "mod" that can be done!


mikey P 500

1,243 posts

209 months

Saturday 10th April 2010
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Mines booked in at WIM on Tuesday cant wait to feel the benefits of a good Geo (not been done for 4yrs plus).

Howard-

4,964 posts

224 months

Saturday 10th April 2010
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Absolutely agree.

Had mine done at WIM after fitting the new susp and it made a WORLD of difference biggrin

Handling is absolutely 100% top notch now. I love the precision, the control, the fun you can have when you provoke the back end on roundabouts and it does exactly as you expect, almost like it's attached to your brain.. biggrin


</mx5fanboy>

plenty

5,036 posts

208 months

Saturday 10th April 2010
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Picked my (first) MX5 this week complete with 3 P6000s and one Chinese ditchfinder. Promptly replaced with a set of T1Rs: next stop, WiM on Thursday.

NeoVR

Original Poster:

437 posts

193 months

Saturday 10th April 2010
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Let us all know your feedback after the geo.. i think youll be more than impressed biggrin

B0LLIKS

414 posts

192 months

Saturday 10th April 2010
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hi, i pick up a new 5 coupe in a few weeks and i am getting the lowerd springs fitted, will mazda do a good job of setting up the suspension or is it best to get it checked by an indipendant.
cheers tom

NeoVR

Original Poster:

437 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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B0LLIKS said:
hi, i pick up a new 5 coupe in a few weeks and i am getting the lowerd springs fitted, will mazda do a good job of setting up the suspension or is it best to get it checked by an indipendant.
cheers tom
From a dealer?.. i bet they will just slap the coils on and leave it like that..
If you can, get it to wheels in motion. from what ive read they will dial in different settings anyway.. give them a call. they are always very happy to discuss!..

B0LLIKS

414 posts

192 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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NeoVR said:
B0LLIKS said:
hi, i pick up a new 5 coupe in a few weeks and i am getting the lowerd springs fitted, will mazda do a good job of setting up the suspension or is it best to get it checked by an indipendant.
cheers tom
From a dealer?.. i bet they will just slap the coils on and leave it like that..
If you can, get it to wheels in motion. from what ive read they will dial in different settings anyway.. give them a call. they are always very happy to discuss!..
hi yes its from a dealer, where bouts are W.I.M, or have they got branches around the uk, i live just outside poole in dorset.
cheers....tom

gd49

302 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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NeoVR said:
I know theres probably already a million threads on this... but heres another!..

I had my '5 suspension geo setup today by Nigel Langs in Bolton (see wiki for contact) - they are reccomended by Tony@WIM and have access to the various WIM settings... i found the details off the back of a GB on Nutz last year

I had mine setup for fast road.. when the car was put on the machine, pretty much every single reading was in the red!..
Now its like a completely different car... its even taken the edge off my silly-hard bilstein shocks.. it goes round corners on rails where as before the back end felt a bit nervous.. my plan for the day was to get alignment done, then wash the car and fix a couple of bits.. instead i left Langs at 12.30 and only got back home half an hour ago.. I LOVE THIS CAR! biggrin


Quite simply.. if you have never had your geo done, GET IT DONE!.. if you think your car handles nice now, it will be much much better with proper geo!!.. im sure there will be more '5 owners to back this up... geo is possibly the single biggest-improving "mod" that can be done!
That's no distance at all from me, think I might be making a trip as soon as I can afford some new tyres. If you don't mind me asking, roughly how much did the alignment cost?

NeoVR

Original Poster:

437 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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gd49 said:
NeoVR said:
I know theres probably already a million threads on this... but heres another!..

I had my '5 suspension geo setup today by Nigel Langs in Bolton (see wiki for contact) - they are reccomended by Tony@WIM and have access to the various WIM settings... i found the details off the back of a GB on Nutz last year

I had mine setup for fast road.. when the car was put on the machine, pretty much every single reading was in the red!..
Now its like a completely different car... its even taken the edge off my silly-hard bilstein shocks.. it goes round corners on rails where as before the back end felt a bit nervous.. my plan for the day was to get alignment done, then wash the car and fix a couple of bits.. instead i left Langs at 12.30 and only got back home half an hour ago.. I LOVE THIS CAR! biggrin


Quite simply.. if you have never had your geo done, GET IT DONE!.. if you think your car handles nice now, it will be much much better with proper geo!!.. im sure there will be more '5 owners to back this up... geo is possibly the single biggest-improving "mod" that can be done!
That's no distance at all from me, think I might be making a trip as soon as I can afford some new tyres. If you don't mind me asking, roughly how much did the alignment cost?
I think i got a special rate.. but its around 85quid if it all goes well.. ovbiously itll be more if you have seized bolts etc.

Shaw Tarse

31,834 posts

225 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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B0LLIKS said:
NeoVR said:
B0LLIKS said:
hi, i pick up a new 5 coupe in a few weeks and i am getting the lowerd springs fitted, will mazda do a good job of setting up the suspension or is it best to get it checked by an indipendant.
cheers tom
From a dealer?.. i bet they will just slap the coils on and leave it like that..
If you can, get it to wheels in motion. from what ive read they will dial in different settings anyway.. give them a call. they are always very happy to discuss!..
hi yes its from a dealer, where bouts are W.I.M, or have they got branches around the uk, i live just outside poole in dorset.
cheers....tom
Hi Tom WiM are listed on the MX5 wiki
Some Mazda dealers have the same equipment as WiM, they may do a good job, but Tony takes a pride in his work & has found fault with the way some dealers have fitted Eibachs. Twisted bushes is one of his gripes.

mikey P 500

1,243 posts

209 months

Tuesday 13th April 2010
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Just got back from WIM also had the fast road settings applied to my car, a couple of extra laps of a quiet roundabout confirmed the handling to be a great improvement even though I already considered it to be very good. A very worthwhile spend to optimise your mx5. Highly recommended.

NeoVR

Original Poster:

437 posts

193 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Just to bump this topic...

Heres my before/after settings.. the "Fast road - stock suspension" was used, although having bilsteins mean the suspension is 10mm lower anyway..

Ive no idea what it all means (apart from red=bad) but the car handles a million times better now!


plenty

5,036 posts

208 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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At WiM this morning, spoke with Tony who is every bit as described on the forums.

Given the state of the adjusters which needed a fair bit of elbow grease to free up, it was clear my car had never had alignment done in its 12 years. I reported bump steer, tramlining and a back end which was skittish and mobile. All was soon revealed by the red numbers on the Hunter machine, most notably showing the rear left toeing-out by a significant angle.

I was pleased that WiM managed to hit the fast-road settings bang on, as apparently with some cars they are limited by the range of adjustment.

I've only had a relatively short drive home to judge, but post WiM the car is not surprisingly more planted and the added front castor is readily felt in a weighter, more substantial steering response. I'm not a drift merchant and like things neat and tidy, hence appreciate the fact that one would really have to provoke things to an extreme, to get out of shape in the dry. At the same time the car has lost nothing of its nimbleness and eagerness to change direction. Other settings are on offer for those who prefer more edgy characteristics.

All in all another satisfied customer and a positive WiM experience. Tony mentioned that he is lining up a numerous range of partners nationwide, which is good news for those who aren't as fortunate to live within easy reach.