Toyota Supra single or twin turbo?
Toyota Supra single or twin turbo?
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Pero

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13 posts

199 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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I'm seriously thinking about getting a Supra. Seeing as I currently drive a Civic Type R and want something quicker, I thought a nice spec Supra would be perfect.

Can someone tell me though why you would rather have the single or twin turbo model?

Marf

22,907 posts

272 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Pero said:
I'm seriously thinking about getting a Supra. Seeing as I currently drive a Civic Type R and want something quicker, I thought a nice spec Supra would be perfect.

Can someone tell me though why you would rather have the single or twin turbo model?
Which shape are you talking about? The MA71 Supra was available as a single turbo in the UK, and both single and twin in Japan.

The JZA80 was only available as a twin turbo from the factory.

Steameh

3,155 posts

241 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Pero said:
I'm seriously thinking about getting a Supra. Seeing as I currently drive a Civic Type R and want something quicker, I thought a nice spec Supra would be perfect.

Can someone tell me though why you would rather have the single or twin turbo model?
Go for twins. The driveability of the twins out weighs the speed you get from a single. When I had my supra I had thought about switching to a mid sized single but decided if I wanted to upgrade I would go for hybrid twins.

Pero

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13 posts

199 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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I would probably be looking at a manual 6 speed import as you rarely find UK models in good condition. I would have thought that the single turbo would be better maintenance wise, as you only have one turbo to service.

Seeing as it is a Toyota, the engine block should be bullit proof, but with mods you never know.

Colin 1985

1,936 posts

201 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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I seem to remember reading that the imported ones had ceramic turbos which were less tunable than the steel ones we got?

Jakestar

436 posts

222 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Pero said:
Seeing as it is a Toyota, the engine block should be bullit proof, but with mods you never know.
Indeed, supra's engines are renowed for being bullet proof!

Pero

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13 posts

199 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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I must admit, I don't know a great deal about the imports. All I know is you get some really nice examples from abroad!


Marf

22,907 posts

272 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Pero said:
I would probably be looking at a manual 6 speed import as you rarely find UK models in good condition. I would have thought that the single turbo would be better maintenance wise, as you only have one turbo to service.

Seeing as it is a Toyota, the engine block should be bullit proof, but with mods you never know.
No offence my good man, but you are making a whole raft of generalisations there!

Pero said:
as you only have one turbo to service.
Turbos don't require servicing. Yes certain parts wear, but they are not a user repairable items. Many aftermarket Garret roller bearing turbos(i.e. those used for single turbo conversions) cannot be rebuilt, so the entire bearing core is replaced.

Pero said:
Seeing as it is a Toyota, the engine block should be bullit proof, but with mods you never know.
The Supra bottom end is known to be very strong and resilient to increases in power, but its pretty much unique in the realm of turbocharged toyotas. The 3SGTE for instance wont run much more than 330 at a push without risking the pistons.

Pero

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13 posts

199 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Fair enough. I don't claim to know much about turbo cars as I've never owned one!

I have however always wanted to own one and I cannot see any other car that is better value for money than a Supra.

I would appreciate as much info as possible!!

Or888t

1,686 posts

204 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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I used to be obsessed with them myself, as i plan to have one at some stage,spending massses of time randomly researching into them.
And iirc , the supra was going to be a up market sports car,with close to 400hp, then at very last minute toyota changed there stratergy detuned and despected it,sold them in a cheaper price bracket, aimed at a different target market,and as a result the supra is immensly good valve for money;
with a extra 100hp being acheved very easyly. and with the stock internals being fine all the way upto 600hp!
As for the original question stock twin turbo model for driverbility.
Then single turbo conversion if your after over 400hp


Marf

22,907 posts

272 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Or888t said:
And iirc , the supra was going to be a up market sports car,with close to 400hp, then at very last minute toyota changed there stratergy detuned and despected it,sold them in a cheaper price bracket, aimed at a different target market,and as a result the supra is immensly good valve for money;
You dont rc smile

The Supra had the power it had (in Japan anyway) due to the agreement between manufacturers that limited power to 280ps/276bhp. The UK Spec cars were more powerful, though I forget what the actual figure was.

torres del paine

1,588 posts

252 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Go for a twin turbo and do not get hung up on bhp figures. They don't tell the whole story.

Big single turbo Supras can make huge power but are more dragster than responsive, sports car. The power delivery will end up infuriating you if you want a fast car for the road. A decent twin turbo, lightly modified, will give you ample torque over a wider spread of revs with less lag. Much more fun on our roads.

Martin F

78 posts

282 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Take a look here for some good 'New Buyer' info:

http://www.mkivsupraownersclub.com/cgi-bin/faq/faq...


anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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the triple turbo model is best

Marf

22,907 posts

272 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Quad is where its at



wink

chriis

859 posts

213 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Heard over to mkivsupra.net wink

I would be looking at a late J-spec twin turbo with the Getrag 6 speed if it was me again , Jm-imports (Jurgen) is the main importer of quality Supra's to the Uk . Some of the cars he brings over are stunning , again you can get him on mkivsupra.net .

A good set-up twin turbo should be good for 400bhp maybe slightly more , if you want more power after that your basically looking at a big single or the costly route of big twins .

paul26982

3,850 posts

249 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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eek

Pero

Original Poster:

13 posts

199 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Really good advice! I thought the single turbo would be best, but the twin makes sense for our roads here.

400bhp is actually exactly what I'm looking for!

chriis

859 posts

213 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Pero said:
Really good advice! I thought the single turbo would be best, but the twin makes sense for our roads here.

400bhp is actually exactly what I'm looking for!
Any Bpu Twin turbo should be making that kind of power , its pushing the twins as far as they will go while still keeping them in a safe zone . I've had my twin turbo for two years , only puts out about 360 at the moment but its still enough for the roads around here .

Fire99

9,868 posts

260 months

Sunday 11th April 2010
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Marf said:
The Supra had the power it had (in Japan anyway) due to the agreement between manufacturers that limited power to 280ps/276bhp. The UK Spec cars were more powerful, though I forget what the actual figure was.
Quoted as 326bhp in the UK.. And they had atleast that..