Should Disability Allowance be means tested?
Discussion
Following on from a thread in GG about Motability I thought I would open it for wider debate.
Should disability allowance be means tested?
There are many many disabled people who are in at least averagely paid jobs and could get without the DLA, with all the cutbacks which are happening should there be a minimum level before it kicks in?
And yes, I realise I'm going to PH hell for this..
Should disability allowance be means tested?
There are many many disabled people who are in at least averagely paid jobs and could get without the DLA, with all the cutbacks which are happening should there be a minimum level before it kicks in?
And yes, I realise I'm going to PH hell for this..
It already comes in different grades and there is two components to it.
You have a one side of it for personal care and one for mobility, the care payment is never enough to cover the costs and many seriously disabled people spend hours at home alone when thier money runs out.
I can see your point but I think you really mean should the tests be harder, well that is a very tricky thing to manage we had to fight tooth and nail to get it and they asked the most stupid questions and wanted demonstrations that made me want to shoot every one of them.
I am saving the government about 25k a month looking after my son for my £200pm DLA and I am not going to get into what I need to spend per week because of it.
You have a one side of it for personal care and one for mobility, the care payment is never enough to cover the costs and many seriously disabled people spend hours at home alone when thier money runs out.
I can see your point but I think you really mean should the tests be harder, well that is a very tricky thing to manage we had to fight tooth and nail to get it and they asked the most stupid questions and wanted demonstrations that made me want to shoot every one of them.
I am saving the government about 25k a month looking after my son for my £200pm DLA and I am not going to get into what I need to spend per week because of it.
Sheets Tabuer said:
It already comes in different grades and there is two components to it.
You have a one side of it for personal care and one for mobility, the care payment is never enough to cover the costs and many seriously disabled people spend hours at home alone when thier money runs out.
I can see your point but I think you really mean should the tests be harder, well that is a very tricky thing to manage we had to fight tooth and nail to get it and they asked the most stupid questions and wanted demonstrations that made me want to shoot every one of them.
I am saving the government about 25k a month looking after my son for my £200pm DLA and I am not going to get into what I need to spend per week because of it.
Isn't that a lot of the problem.You have a one side of it for personal care and one for mobility, the care payment is never enough to cover the costs and many seriously disabled people spend hours at home alone when thier money runs out.
I can see your point but I think you really mean should the tests be harder, well that is a very tricky thing to manage we had to fight tooth and nail to get it and they asked the most stupid questions and wanted demonstrations that made me want to shoot every one of them.
I am saving the government about 25k a month looking after my son for my £200pm DLA and I am not going to get into what I need to spend per week because of it.
Isn't that a lot of the problem? That the definition of disbability is often too low meaning those with a genuine need are often left to suffer when those of a more borderline nature benefit?
raf_gti said:
Isn't that a lot of the problem? That the definition of disbability is often too low meaning those with a genuine need are often left to suffer when those of a more borderline nature benefit?
Oddly I thought it was the other way around, lots of really ill people being told they are fine etc.raf_gti said:
Isn't that a lot of the problem? That the definition of disbability is often too low meaning those with a genuine need are often left to suffer when those of a more borderline nature benefit?
Couldn't we say the same thing about all welfare.Child benefit/family tax credits
Winter fuel allowance
Veterans pensions
Etc. etc.
Obviously some need it and others don't and we should target those that do.
Not sure why addicts can claim...
Edited by Uhura_Fighter on Sunday 11th April 19:50
Engineer1 said:
All benefits should be means tested provided the bureaucracy involved doesn't cost more than it saves, and also doesn't mean that those who are entitled to it and really need it aren't put off from claiming it.
Which just rewards the feckless "Spend Spend Spend" on the never never, "Credit Credit Credit!". The same t
ts that have ramped up house prices to insanity by looking at the simple cost of a 2% mortgage interest only rate, and not taking into account the long term.Meanwhile, those that have done without the insanity, and saved up, they get penalised by feckless wonders who demand that their debts should be paid by those greedy savers, the greedy b
ds that only make 1% interest PA, whilst the real rate of inflation is 10%+No - benefits should not be means tested at all - however they should be based on contributions. You pay more in, you get more out.
I am registered disabled, broke my back in 5 places resulting in a spinal injury.
I own/run 2 companys employing 5 people including myself yet find myself entitled to DLA of £196 a month.
When I first came out from my 7 months in hospital after my accident I didnt claim as ive never claimed any form of benefit in my life, however once I realised how much more health insurance is when your disabled, or travel insurance, or getting the car adapted, list goes on and on, I thought sod it, why not. The tax my company, and myself put into the system more than covers it.
Right or wrong, who knows
I own/run 2 companys employing 5 people including myself yet find myself entitled to DLA of £196 a month.
When I first came out from my 7 months in hospital after my accident I didnt claim as ive never claimed any form of benefit in my life, however once I realised how much more health insurance is when your disabled, or travel insurance, or getting the car adapted, list goes on and on, I thought sod it, why not. The tax my company, and myself put into the system more than covers it.
Right or wrong, who knows
Don't get me started!!!!
My bloody neighbour hasn't worked for the last 6 years & claiming every benifit going & there is fu** all wrong with either of them! Oh they have just bought a third car over the weekend & are going to Spain soon for 12 weeks! Must be nice not having to work yet living like a king!
My bloody neighbour hasn't worked for the last 6 years & claiming every benifit going & there is fu** all wrong with either of them! Oh they have just bought a third car over the weekend & are going to Spain soon for 12 weeks! Must be nice not having to work yet living like a king!
eldar said:
whoami said:
eldar said:
whoami said:
All benefits should be means tested.
Define benefits. Fittster said:
Yep. I'd abolish the entire welfare state. Slash taxation and make people responsible for their own care.
Then you can send all those feckless children back down coal mines or up chimneys, eh? (metaphorically, of course)Be careful what you wish for, you may need that hated welfare one day...
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