MOT Validity - Quick Question.
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This may be better in SP&L but looking for quick response to this so trying here. Move if appropriate.
Say a vehicle has an MOT until September, but is presented for a test in March (for example). It fails the MOT. Does it now not have a valid MOT, or is the old test still valid until September, and consequently would it be possible for a dealer to sell a vehicle as having a valid MOT even though it obviously isn't going to pass the next one?
Say a vehicle has an MOT until September, but is presented for a test in March (for example). It fails the MOT. Does it now not have a valid MOT, or is the old test still valid until September, and consequently would it be possible for a dealer to sell a vehicle as having a valid MOT even though it obviously isn't going to pass the next one?
Dick_Phallus said:
Hypothetically then - if a car was presented early, failed on say emissions then the owner shifted it, how could you go about proving that the owner knew the car was not roadworthy when the owner sold it?
The records are kept by VOSA and can be searched as both passes and fails are kept, can't remember how but i'd guess it'll be via the Directgov site, you'll probably need the V5 reference number though.... if the vehicle is presented for MOT before the expiry date is due then that test overights any previous test pass or fail, this especially applies to any PCO (public carriage office / minicab) which have a six month intervals although a 1 year certificate is given.
you can check here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...
you can check here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...
Edited by PROPOP on Monday 12th April 00:07
You've missed the point here.
"Roadworthiness" is generally a matter of safety on the road.
I don't hink something like,
a) one blown side-lamp bulb (so long as headlamps working)
b) leaking exhaust
c) slightly too high emissions
d) ABS warning lamp illuminted
would be considered significant in the context of roadworthiness, even though they are all MoT fails.
So long as the car is (1) Roadworthy, and (2) has passed an MOT within the previous 12 months there should be no problems using it on the road.
"Roadworthiness" is generally a matter of safety on the road.
I don't hink something like,
a) one blown side-lamp bulb (so long as headlamps working)
b) leaking exhaust
c) slightly too high emissions
d) ABS warning lamp illuminted
would be considered significant in the context of roadworthiness, even though they are all MoT fails.
So long as the car is (1) Roadworthy, and (2) has passed an MOT within the previous 12 months there should be no problems using it on the road.
PROPOP said:
... if the vehicle is presented for MOT before the expiry date is due then that test overights any previous test pass or fail
No it doesn't... the old certificate is still valid until its expiry. PROPOP said:
you can check here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...
No you can't because your link doesn't work.If however you mean here:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...
then it doesn't say that.
tvrgit said:
PROPOP said:
... if the vehicle is presented for MOT before the expiry date is due then that test overights any previous test pass or fail
No it doesn't... the old certificate is still valid until its expiry. PROPOP said:
you can check here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...
No you can't because your link doesn't work.If however you mean here:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...
then it doesn't say that.
duncansaunders said:
tvrgit said:
PROPOP said:
... if the vehicle is presented for MOT before the expiry date is due then that test overights any previous test pass or fail
No it doesn't... the old certificate is still valid until its expiry. PROPOP said:
you can check here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...
No you can't because your link doesn't work.If however you mean here:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicl...
then it doesn't say that.
If you have a current certificate, you can drive it where you like, whether it's just failed another test or not - provided that, as it says in the next para, the vehicle is roadworthy (current certificate or not) - and a recent fail might be used as evidence that you knew it was unroadworthy, if you were stopped. You would then be nicked for driving an unroadworthy vehicle, NOT for having no current MOT.
tvrgit said:
If you have a current certificate, you can drive it where you like, whether it's just failed another test or not - provided that, as it says in the next para, the vehicle is roadworthy (current certificate or not) - and a recent fail might be used as evidence that you knew it was unroadworthy, if you were stopped. You would then be nicked for driving an unroadworthy vehicle, NOT for having no current MOT.
Would it make a difference if you knew or not? Ignorance is no defence and all that malarky?If it failed on something serious the Tester can take it off the road immediately. It must then be repaired at the MOT site or trailored to another place of repair.
A check on the DirectGov site shows all MOT history back to when the computerised system started, including fails and advisories and what the fails or advisories were.
A check on the DirectGov site shows all MOT history back to when the computerised system started, including fails and advisories and what the fails or advisories were.
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