Audi's DSG on 3.2 A3's?
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The DSG is a totally different box to the Multitronic so dont think you can compare the two. As an second hand car I'd go with a manual every time. DSG is great but if it goes wrong fear the bills outside manufacturers warranty. Also the 3.2 is a bit nose heavy as it is and the DSG box adds even more weight up front. The 2.0T is a better alround car and with a remap is as quick (if not a bit quicker) as the 3.2
A 2.0t can be made as fast as a 3.2 but they're quite different cars.
3.2 quattro DSG think of as a surprisingly characterful and capable point to point car. It *excels* at nothing (except noise) but will not feel phased by anything you so care to throw at it. Real jack of all trades.
2.0T can be made quick but lacks the sound and traction (and DSG) of a 3.2.
Do it, they're good value but make sure Haldex and DSG are serviced correctly.
3.2 quattro DSG think of as a surprisingly characterful and capable point to point car. It *excels* at nothing (except noise) but will not feel phased by anything you so care to throw at it. Real jack of all trades.
2.0T can be made quick but lacks the sound and traction (and DSG) of a 3.2.
Do it, they're good value but make sure Haldex and DSG are serviced correctly.
AudiSport said:
Are they roomy enough for a 6'2 frame? And when you say you never find yourself wanting dsg - do you mean you leave it in auto, or you have a manual?
i regularly take my 6'4 mate and he moves the seat back and down a touch and he's perfectly comfortable.and i have a manual.
DSG is nothing like as troublesome as the multi tronic, but it does have issues. Older cars 2004ish often loose there basic settings and get very jurkey, resetting every two years or so is generally enough to fix.
Mechantronics units fail, and are expensive. We typically do one every couple of months. There seems to be no pattern to the failure either, we see one car its over 100,000 miles clearly thrashed to death on a daily basis and has only just failed. Another car prestinly kept, older driver clearly from break and tyre wear driven gently failed less then 40,000 miles. We had a bad batch that were failing within 10,000 miles a few years ago.
A mechatronics module failure will cost arround £2000 to fix.
Regarding 2.0T or 3.2.
I love the sound and the touque of the 3.2 and then it revs really well to, feels faster than is it. But 3.2 has funny trottle responce, very sharp at small throttle openings (is made worse by DGS)
2.0T is smoother and almost as fast, faster with a remap, but doesnt rev as high and lacks character. But is much lightert than the 3.2 reducing understeer.
Mechantronics units fail, and are expensive. We typically do one every couple of months. There seems to be no pattern to the failure either, we see one car its over 100,000 miles clearly thrashed to death on a daily basis and has only just failed. Another car prestinly kept, older driver clearly from break and tyre wear driven gently failed less then 40,000 miles. We had a bad batch that were failing within 10,000 miles a few years ago.
A mechatronics module failure will cost arround £2000 to fix.
Regarding 2.0T or 3.2.
I love the sound and the touque of the 3.2 and then it revs really well to, feels faster than is it. But 3.2 has funny trottle responce, very sharp at small throttle openings (is made worse by DGS)
2.0T is smoother and almost as fast, faster with a remap, but doesnt rev as high and lacks character. But is much lightert than the 3.2 reducing understeer.
I had a 3.2 with DSG (04 model) before I got a 2008 manual S3. I preferred the 3.2. It was a great car, and I loved the gearbox. I remember a lot of people on the audisport forum moaning about it though; so you should try it and see what you think. (I'm guessing you haven't tried it if you think it's like the multitronic?)
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