NHS IT

[cuneus]

So Isoft said that 25 trusts would go live this year with Lorenzo.
They have missed the deadline of 31st March to go live with at Morecambe Bay despite massive support (only a few years late)

Meanwhile in more parasitic news BT have managed to provide even poorer VFM on the London contract after inflicting Cerner on some trusts. A mere £112m has been cut from the contract

Carnall's (Chief Executive of NHS London) letter says:

- "the provision of GP solutions has been removed" from BT's commitment - which means the company doesn't have to deliver, install and support about 1,400 GP practice systems.

- the Cerner and RIO electronic patient record systems will "no longer be available to all organisations". This is expected to mean that about half the NHS trusts in London will no longer have their main hospital systems centrally funded - they will have to re-think their plans and fund new patient administration systems from their Trust budgets. This was the funding position some were in before the launch of the NPfIT in 2002.

- "the provision of an ambulance solution has been removed"

- "there are other areas where scope has been reduced, for example, it has only been possible to afford a further 12 month licence for the use of Map of Medicine. This will give us time to consider how to continue meeting the needs provided by this system". The Map of Medicine Ltd is described as a "one-stop clinical resource for clinical decision making". It's a wholly-owned subsidiary of The Hearst Corporation.


where is Twit ?

[Jasandjules]

Have you a point to make? (or have I missed it?)

[Rollin]

A bucketful of public money isn't worth 10p.

[NORFE]

Jasandjules said:

Have you a point to make? (or have I missed it?)

I think the point the OP is trying to make is how vast amounts of public money are being wasted on IT projects in the NHS...in this case the NHS records system project......and I have to agree.

Having worked in the NHS on a large scale IT project I have seen first hand how upper management are wasting public money...the upper management should stay out of the technical processes...but unfortunatly they dont...theres to much micro managing going on

[cuneus]

We are 2 years on from this

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I just wish another A Andersen would happen . . .

[cuneus]

Here is what iSoft said in mid March:

"Australian health IT firm iSoft yesterday said it was “on track” to implement Lorenzo across University Hospitals of Morecambe Bay NHS Trust by the end of March.

In a statement to the Australian Stock Exchange, the company said it would meet its promised revenues and added: “ISoft remains on track for the ‘go-live’ of Lorenzo Regional Healthcare Release 1.9 at Morecambe Bay in accordance with the agreed schedule, contrary to recent speculation in media reports.”"

and

"28 Apr 2009

Christine Connelly has given the main suppliers to the National Programme for IT in the NHS seven months to demonstrate "significant progress" in delivering information systems to the acute sector.

In a keynote speech to the Healthcare Computing conference in Harrogate, the newly styled director general for informatics said “we will look at alternative approaches” if the November deadline is not met.

Her message was underlined by a DH statement, which said: "We will be working closely with the NHS and our current suppliers to improve the pace of delivery.

"If we don't see significant progress by the end of November 2009, then we will move to a new plan for delivering informatics in healthcare."

It would also mean CSC getting the latest version of iSoft's Lorenzo fully implemented in a care setting - not necessarily an acute trust - by November and "runnng smoothly" in an acute trust by March."

[elster]

How many billions have been spent on the NHS IT project?

[NORFE]

elster said:

How many billions have been spent on the NHS IT project?

The question should be "How many billions have been wasted by brainless micro managing high level management" and the answer will be in the billions

[Jasandjules]

NORFE said:

Jasandjules said:

Have you a point to make? (or have I missed it?)

I think the point the OP is trying to make is how vast amounts of public money are being wasted on IT projects in the NHS...in this case the NHS records system project......and I have to agree.

Ah, in that case, yes I agree. I have a friend who is an IT Consultant who works for the NHS and some of his stories are staggering - the level of middle management ineptitude is scary.

[Aviz]

Lorenzo would be a step backward for our trust. Had a meeting with ISoft the other day regarding support of their other products. They're buying up all the smaller health software suppliers, meaning we are more and more at their mercy!