I blame the parents.....
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Before I have my little rant I'd like to make two caveats.
Firstly I would hope that I would not be viewed in the same light as most of my peers i.e. a impolite, socially inept teenage to twenty something scref.
Secondly I am fully aware that most of the whinges (mine included) do not apply to the majority of PHer's my generation or older.
However every time I see a rant on here about the youth of today not living up to expectations and generally been a drain on society my instant reaction is; well who brought them up and let them get away with being like that?
I can only go on my personal experience and that of my friends but when it comes down to social etiquette the only reason I behave in the 'proper' manner is because a) I know what my parents would expect b) they taught me from a young age how to conduct myself properly. I had pretty much no option in it, as most kids I tried to rebel at various stages however I was always brought back into line one way or another.
Conversely to the other thread I recently had the pleasure of meeting a new g/f's parents. I felt a little bit awkward to say the least. This was firstly because her step-dad didn't initiate the introduction / she didn't introduce me, which left me to kick it off. That was fine but secondly he didn't appear keen to offer his hand, I ended up not offering mine... I'm still not sure if I should of done. It was fine in the end we chatted quite happily etc but the first minute or so made me feel a bit unnerved.
Obviously there will always be the awkward ones, who are just rude/thieving/inconsiderate/sponges/general scumbags, whatever their upbringing but on a whole I think the now 40-60 generation have a lot to answer for. However consistently it seems to be the very same generation chastising my generation for all the social inadequacies.
...and you've left us with a wreck of country to try and sort out.
:-) I don't really have a chip on my shoulder but it gets a bit one sided sometimes, so I'm just trying to re-address the balance.
Firstly I would hope that I would not be viewed in the same light as most of my peers i.e. a impolite, socially inept teenage to twenty something scref.
Secondly I am fully aware that most of the whinges (mine included) do not apply to the majority of PHer's my generation or older.
However every time I see a rant on here about the youth of today not living up to expectations and generally been a drain on society my instant reaction is; well who brought them up and let them get away with being like that?
I can only go on my personal experience and that of my friends but when it comes down to social etiquette the only reason I behave in the 'proper' manner is because a) I know what my parents would expect b) they taught me from a young age how to conduct myself properly. I had pretty much no option in it, as most kids I tried to rebel at various stages however I was always brought back into line one way or another.
Conversely to the other thread I recently had the pleasure of meeting a new g/f's parents. I felt a little bit awkward to say the least. This was firstly because her step-dad didn't initiate the introduction / she didn't introduce me, which left me to kick it off. That was fine but secondly he didn't appear keen to offer his hand, I ended up not offering mine... I'm still not sure if I should of done. It was fine in the end we chatted quite happily etc but the first minute or so made me feel a bit unnerved.
Obviously there will always be the awkward ones, who are just rude/thieving/inconsiderate/sponges/general scumbags, whatever their upbringing but on a whole I think the now 40-60 generation have a lot to answer for. However consistently it seems to be the very same generation chastising my generation for all the social inadequacies.
...and you've left us with a wreck of country to try and sort out.
:-) I don't really have a chip on my shoulder but it gets a bit one sided sometimes, so I'm just trying to re-address the balance.
waterwonder said:
Before I have my little rant I'd like to make two caveats.
Firstly I would hope that I would not be viewed in the same light as most of my peers i.e. a impolite, socially inept teenage to twenty something scref.
Secondly I am fully aware that most of the whinges (mine included) do not apply to the majority of PHer's my generation or older.
However every time I see a rant on here about the youth of today not living up to expectations and generally been a drain on society my instant reaction is; well who brought them up and let them get away with being like that?
I can only go on my personal experience and that of my friends but when it comes down to social etiquette the only reason I behave in the 'proper' manner is because a) I know what my parents would expect b) they taught me from a young age how to conduct myself properly. I had pretty much no option in it, as most kids I tried to rebel at various stages however I was always brought back into line one way or another.
Conversely to the other thread I recently had the pleasure of meeting a new g/f's parents. I felt a little bit awkward to say the least. This was firstly because her step-dad didn't initiate the introduction / she didn't introduce me, which left me to kick it off. That was fine but secondly he didn't appear keen to offer his hand, I ended up not offering mine... I'm still not sure if I should of done. It was fine in the end we chatted quite happily etc but the first minute or so made me feel a bit unnerved.
Obviously there will always be the awkward ones, who are just rude/thieving/inconsiderate/sponges/general scumbags, whatever their upbringing but on a whole I think the now 40-60 generation have a lot to answer for. However consistently it seems to be the very same generation chastising my generation for all the social inadequacies.
...and you've left us with a wreck of country to try and sort out.
:-) I don't really have a chip on my shoulder but it gets a bit one sided sometimes, so I'm just trying to re-address the balance.
I agree.Firstly I would hope that I would not be viewed in the same light as most of my peers i.e. a impolite, socially inept teenage to twenty something scref.
Secondly I am fully aware that most of the whinges (mine included) do not apply to the majority of PHer's my generation or older.
However every time I see a rant on here about the youth of today not living up to expectations and generally been a drain on society my instant reaction is; well who brought them up and let them get away with being like that?
I can only go on my personal experience and that of my friends but when it comes down to social etiquette the only reason I behave in the 'proper' manner is because a) I know what my parents would expect b) they taught me from a young age how to conduct myself properly. I had pretty much no option in it, as most kids I tried to rebel at various stages however I was always brought back into line one way or another.
Conversely to the other thread I recently had the pleasure of meeting a new g/f's parents. I felt a little bit awkward to say the least. This was firstly because her step-dad didn't initiate the introduction / she didn't introduce me, which left me to kick it off. That was fine but secondly he didn't appear keen to offer his hand, I ended up not offering mine... I'm still not sure if I should of done. It was fine in the end we chatted quite happily etc but the first minute or so made me feel a bit unnerved.
Obviously there will always be the awkward ones, who are just rude/thieving/inconsiderate/sponges/general scumbags, whatever their upbringing but on a whole I think the now 40-60 generation have a lot to answer for. However consistently it seems to be the very same generation chastising my generation for all the social inadequacies.
...and you've left us with a wreck of country to try and sort out.
:-) I don't really have a chip on my shoulder but it gets a bit one sided sometimes, so I'm just trying to re-address the balance.
Ross (16)
i agree that good manners cost nothing.
Im 23 and although im young i know what to do when meeting someone for the 1st time,going into their house,them coming into mine etc.
when i met my now ex's mum, i stood waiting to be invited to sit down for about 5mins, she didnt put out her hand for me to shake, she never offered me a cup of tea/coffee/juice, she didnt take the time to get to know meor make me feel comfortable. Next visit I had my daughter with me...same again...never went back after that and her son and I have just broke up. Out of that one well haha.
Im 23 and although im young i know what to do when meeting someone for the 1st time,going into their house,them coming into mine etc.
when i met my now ex's mum, i stood waiting to be invited to sit down for about 5mins, she didnt put out her hand for me to shake, she never offered me a cup of tea/coffee/juice, she didnt take the time to get to know meor make me feel comfortable. Next visit I had my daughter with me...same again...never went back after that and her son and I have just broke up. Out of that one well haha.
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