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neil_cardiff

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17,113 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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Careful driving for nearly three years, and I get a NIP three months before I get a clean license again!

So, here's the question -

87mph on the M4 near the 2nd Severn Bridge on the 14th Feb; What am I looking at?

When I send off the NIP, do I expect a 3 points and a fine, or a magistrates summons?

It was actually a run to see my ill granddad in hospital, of which I can back up with his documents, but I bet that dosen't wash these days, so what will it be?

>>> Edited by neil_cardiff on Tuesday 24th February 17:54

craigw

12,248 posts

300 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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3 points & £60 fine.

dazren

22,612 posts

279 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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In answer to your query I'd expect an offer of 3 points and £60.

Someone I know is waiting for an envelope having passed by a talivan before the toll booths on the way into wales last saturday. Doing 87 clock speed on an empty motorway when he/she spotted the highwayman, braked like mad and is now waiting.......for 14 days plus a few more for postage. Hopefully their speedo significantly overstated the true mph.

Have to say a definite revenue raising zone as opposed to a road safety deployment. Probably motorists excessive braking may lead to more accidents during times of higher traffic congestion.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Monday 12th April 22:00

craigw

12,248 posts

300 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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I'm heading to chepstow on thur eve then back to cirencester on fri am, where were the vans guys ?

neil_cardiff

Original Poster:

17,113 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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I've just remembered where it was now, I remember looking in my right wing mirror just before I got on the bridge going to England, it was on the other side of the motorway, up on the bridge, the sneaky bastards.

It takes me back this does, this is what got me into Pistonheads three years ago...

Cooperman

4,428 posts

268 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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Don't sign the NIP, Neil. Fight the b******s.

V6GTO

11,579 posts

260 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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Niel, I'd forget the ill relation thing if I were you. A guy in magistrates court in front of me trid that and they absolutely hammered him because they said he new he was speeding and therefor premeditated. I, on the other hand, said I was daydreaming because of pressure at work to get places quickly and got off really lightly.

dazren

22,612 posts

279 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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CRAIG

When entering Wales on the new Severn crossing there is a bridge over the motorway a few hundred yards before you reach the toll booths. The talivans get you from either direction from that bridge. Further east of this location are police car pull ins on either side of the motorway.

With this mobile scamera location (revenue based) and the treatment of the Rally I now believe the scamera partnerships in southwales are as bad as the one covering the kingdom of Brunstromland in the north.

Companies/Investors, looking at making investments in Wales should bear this in mind if an investment means having key members of staff travelling to or from Wales by car.

DAZ

Flat in Fifth

47,130 posts

269 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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Just a thought about vans sitting before the toll booths.

How long before they sit in the 50 and 30 limits approaching the booths on the M6 toll?

No comment as to suitability of these limits or advisability of exceeding them but just a thought.

Cannot recall anywhere else with toll roads having statutory limits which step down towards a toll booth but very willing to be corrected. Sticking to those limits on M6 toll and you feel to be going backwards.

Bit of overkill in my opinion.

>> Edited by Flat in Fifth on Wednesday 25th February 11:44

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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FiF

From the SI:

These Regulations impose a maximum speed limit of 50 miles per hour on driving any motor vehicle on the specified lengths of carriageway on the M6 Toll, being the entry and egress to the toll lane areas at Great Wyrley and Weeford Park.

No doubt the Powers that Be in their wisdom anticipated
a crowd would appear to use thgis new wonder, like a Pub with free beer at Stourport, so limit imposed to slow traffic down approaching/leaving the booths and to stop Toad at full wellie running up your chuff?

DVD

pdV6

16,442 posts

279 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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neil_cardiff said:
When I send off the NIP, do I expect a 3 points and a fine, or a magistrates summons?

Bummer.
Depends on what's on your licence already. You'll get the standard offer of 3pts+£60, but you won't be able to accept this offer if you're alredy on 8+ points IIRC and would then have no choice but to visit the nice magistrate.

Davel

8,982 posts

276 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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Sorry that your grandad's been ill and hope he's on the mend.

Sadly doubt that it will make any difference to the powers that be.

Might have been cheaper to hire a private ambulance and get him to visit you.

Clearly another accident blackspot requiring a camera - I don't think so!!!!

neil_cardiff

Original Poster:

17,113 posts

282 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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Thanks Davel, he was poorly then but is improving all the time;

Thanks for the thought!

Neil

dieselnut

327 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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pdV6 said:



Bummer.
Depends on what's on your licence already. You'll get the standard offer of 3pts+£60, but you won't be able to accept this offer if you're alredy on 8+ points IIRC and would then have no choice but to visit the nice magistrate.


Why's that then ? Surely 8+3 < 12, so no problem

Matthew - pondering whether he's facing 3 or 6 ontop of his current 3 ...

pdV6

16,442 posts

279 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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dieselnut said:

Why's that then ? Surely 8+3 < 12, so no problem

Dunno - its just what it said on the 2 NIPs I received (from separate scammers, er, I mean safety partnerships) last year.

dieselnut

327 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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So if I've got 3 and receive 6 in the post for 67 in a 50 then I'm clear to take them you would think ?

pdV6

16,442 posts

279 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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More likely to get an offer of 3+ £60 for that kind of speed, in my experience

pdV6

16,442 posts

279 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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Thinking about it, I believe that the NIPs were worded such that if the points on offer would take one to 8+, then you can't accept them and its off to the magistrate...

dieselnut

327 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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Phew.... so I'm looking at the old chestnut of 3 pts and £60.... at least that's a little more swallowable.

Fair enough, I was doing the speed, but as other threads have mentioned, it was another posting on the fringe of a village between a 60 limit and an NSL dual carriageway, and after having passed a stationary gatso not even half a mile before it

pdV6

16,442 posts

279 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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dieselnut said:
between a 60 limit and an NSL dual carriageway

Now that's just greedy of them