Stopping on Ped. Crossing zig-zags (PC30)
Stopping on Ped. Crossing zig-zags (PC30)
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jeffreyarcher

Original Poster:

675 posts

266 months

Tuesday 24th February 2004
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Can someone point me in the direction of the relevent Act / Section.

TIA

joe c

99 posts

268 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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I got caught on that one.
Was sat in car on cup final day, engine running, waiting for wife at cash till. Place was deserted when out of the blue a police car comes round the corner. Pulls up and books me for having the bumper over the end of the zig zag lines. PC30 & £60 fine !!!

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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JA

Schedule 6 (Road Markings) TS & Gen Directions 2002 gives the zig zags the sign number 1001.3 and Reg 27/28 tells you what and what you cannot do in relation to the sign.

Reg 10 also states that sign 1001.3 is a sign that Section 36 Road Traffic Act 88 applies.

Said section 36 creates the offence of failing to conform to Traffic sign.

Schedule 1 Road Traffic Offenders Act 88 outlines that a S36 RTA 88 offence requires NOIP and Schedule 2
the punishment for the infringement.

Hows that - all before my tea and toast?

DVD

>> Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Wednesday 25th February 07:41

streaky

19,311 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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joe c said:
I got caught on that one.
Was sat in car on cup final day, engine running, waiting for wife at cash till. Place was deserted when out of the blue a police car comes round the corner. Pulls up and books me for having the bumper over the end of the zig zag lines.
Very similar circumstances 26 years ago, except that it was the ManU/ManC derby, my wife was 8 months pregnant and the bobby was on foot - Streaky

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

274 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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joe c said:
I got caught on that one.
Was sat in car on cup final day, engine running, waiting for wife at cash till. Place was deserted when out of the blue a police car comes round the corner. Pulls up and books me for having the bumper over the end of the zig zag lines. PC30 & £60 fine !!!

Like we always say, let's have more BiBs and less cameras because they've got discretion and a sense of proportion..... Are you sure it was just your bumper?

streaky

19,311 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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Peter Ward said:

joe c said:
I got caught on that one.
Was sat in car on cup final day, engine running, waiting for wife at cash till. Place was deserted when out of the blue a police car comes round the corner. Pulls up and books me for having the bumper over the end of the zig zag lines. PC30 & £60 fine !!!


Like we always say, let's have more BiBs and less cameras because they've got discretion and a sense of proportion..... Are you sure it was just your bumper?
In my case it was ... and it was in a convertible too, and it was late evening, and the street was empty of traffic (not a single car passed in either direction from my wife getting out to the copper (still wet behind the ears ... actually he looked as though he should still be in nappies) finishing writing - M

blueyes

4,799 posts

270 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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Hang on a minute! If the car was running how the hell could he book you? If he could do it then what's to stop him doing it when you're waiting for someone to cross the road?

Somebody explain this please.

andrew54

109 posts

261 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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blueyes said:
Hang on a minute! If the car was running how the hell could he book you? If he could do it then what's to stop him doing it when you're waiting for someone to cross the road?

Somebody explain this please.
The BiB would be able to see if you were waiting for someone to cross the road, that's the advantage over a camera. He could also have booked him for leaving the engine running.

It would be interesting to know where the police car parked?? Was there plenty of free parking space OUTSIDE the zig zags?

jeffreyarcher

Original Poster:

675 posts

266 months

Wednesday 25th February 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:

Hows that - all before my tea and toast?

Excellent, thanks.

blueyes

4,799 posts

270 months

Thursday 26th February 2004
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andrew54 said:

blueyes said:
Hang on a minute! If the car was running how the hell could he book you? If he could do it then what's to stop him doing it when you're waiting for someone to cross the road?

Somebody explain this please.

The BiB would be able to see if you were waiting for someone to cross the road, that's the advantage over a camera. He could also have booked him for leaving the engine running.

It would be interesting to know where the police car parked?? Was there plenty of free parking space OUTSIDE the zig zags?


I was refering to joe_c. He was in the car with the engine running. If the car was running how could it be classified as stopped? DVD please explain!

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

262 months

Friday 27th February 2004
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Zig-zags = Controlled area.

Law says no stopping (matters not that engine running)in Controlled area except for certain reasons and using a Bank Cash machine isn't one of them.

Fair cop Gov'ner?

DVD

streaky

19,311 posts

267 months

Friday 27th February 2004
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DVD - but is it "controlled" with regard to the leading contact point (i.e. the tyre) or to any overhang (e.g. bumper)?

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Also, at both the quantum level and with respect to celestial mechanics under the Euclidian system, the vehicle was moving. However, from this latter perspective it was exceeding the NSL by a considerable amount.
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I guess that if the car actually crept forward (at >0<1 mph) it would not be stopped and no offence would be committed - Streaky