Night Racing Query Topic closed - right to speech here then
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I feel a bit cheated of a right to respond, my original query in a forum that has now been 'closed' was this:
"Watching the pods webcam today I felt for the track staff as I have seen them work like donkeys against the elements many times over the years.
I'm wondering though, on a day like today when the wet weather does eventually clear and they are a whole day behind why not take advantage of the break in the weather and just extend the racing into the evening?
Am I right in thinking a more accurate forecast is available for a few hours hence and so the good/bad bits can be expected?
It seems like in the last three hours there's been less to overcome weatherwise than there was earlier when those grafters were giving it their all for the millionth time - maybe that's the answer, they've already given it 200% !!!
I've been walking round the pod many times after a deluge is over wondering this, hope someone can clear it up.
Plus evening/night racing is the dogs danglies."
The response from one individual was this:
"crikey
Friday 2nd April quote
Racing has to stop at 9pm, that's it's legal limit.
Now for the answers to some of the downright stupid and insulting questions being asked on here.
Unfortunately none of the VOLUNTEER race officials are professional, or even amateur so far as I am aware, meterologists. So predicting when the gaps in the weather will appear is an impossibility, and even with the advances in weather prediciting and the availablity of such information on the internet (which believe or not is used in race control), it's not unheard of for it to be raining on track and yet dry at the main gate !!!!
Now, many of the VOLUNTEER race officials are at the track at stupid o'clock in the morning, this includes the VOLUNTEER track crew who are trying to dry it before you're out of bed. Many of these VOLUNTEERS also have to remain at the track long after racing has finished. Should these VOLUNTEERS really be expected to spend even more time working on the off chance that the weather will clear and allow them a long enough window to get the track dried and get some racing in ?
How about you appreciate the racing that does take place, and appreciate the efforts of those that VOLUNTEER their time to make it happen.
It really does astound me at times, the amount of whining and "I know best" that goes on on these forums, particularly from people who haven't got the faintest idea of what it takes to put on this type of event. fking shameful."
...and...
Friday 2nd April quote
firewalker said:
"In fact i think a later schedule all round wouldn't be a bad thing, give people chance to get there."
Crikey said:
Assuming you have left school and have a job, why not ask your boss if you could start a few hours later because you can't be arsed getting up in time to get there for a 9am start ?
Well Mr. Crikey,
No I don't (can't) volunteer but had you read my post you'll see it has nothing but praise for those who do. Alternatively I have supported SPR as a paying customer for over 30 years, enticing others to do the same. It costs me well over a weeks scrappy wages to actually attend each event, and that includes camping out in all weathers - and so I feel entitled to an opinion and to ask questions - or at least not be insulted if I'm not even being informed in a civil manner.
I live a long way from SPR and use most of my works holiday entitlement to travel to and attend the meetings. The weather has great bearing on travel plans (5-6 hours each way) depending on how much racing I am likely to see. I can't just pop home after for a cup of tea or hang about to see what the weather does if that's what you think.
I do in fact know some of the SPR staff and workers (your 'colleagues' then Mr timekeeper), and racers and have seen what goes on many many times, some of these people have themselves expressed a preference for the atmosphere night/dusk racing whatever you want to call it brings...and have pondered as I have the original question. Especially some of the sportsman racers.
There was no 'whining' or complaining going on from this end thank you, and I find your responses arrogant, insulting and aloof. Thankfully I'm aware that the UK drag racing community does not share these traits but you sir have brought yourself down a notch.
"Watching the pods webcam today I felt for the track staff as I have seen them work like donkeys against the elements many times over the years.
I'm wondering though, on a day like today when the wet weather does eventually clear and they are a whole day behind why not take advantage of the break in the weather and just extend the racing into the evening?
Am I right in thinking a more accurate forecast is available for a few hours hence and so the good/bad bits can be expected?
It seems like in the last three hours there's been less to overcome weatherwise than there was earlier when those grafters were giving it their all for the millionth time - maybe that's the answer, they've already given it 200% !!!
I've been walking round the pod many times after a deluge is over wondering this, hope someone can clear it up.
Plus evening/night racing is the dogs danglies."
The response from one individual was this:
"crikey
Friday 2nd April quote
Racing has to stop at 9pm, that's it's legal limit.
Now for the answers to some of the downright stupid and insulting questions being asked on here.
Unfortunately none of the VOLUNTEER race officials are professional, or even amateur so far as I am aware, meterologists. So predicting when the gaps in the weather will appear is an impossibility, and even with the advances in weather prediciting and the availablity of such information on the internet (which believe or not is used in race control), it's not unheard of for it to be raining on track and yet dry at the main gate !!!!
Now, many of the VOLUNTEER race officials are at the track at stupid o'clock in the morning, this includes the VOLUNTEER track crew who are trying to dry it before you're out of bed. Many of these VOLUNTEERS also have to remain at the track long after racing has finished. Should these VOLUNTEERS really be expected to spend even more time working on the off chance that the weather will clear and allow them a long enough window to get the track dried and get some racing in ?
How about you appreciate the racing that does take place, and appreciate the efforts of those that VOLUNTEER their time to make it happen.
It really does astound me at times, the amount of whining and "I know best" that goes on on these forums, particularly from people who haven't got the faintest idea of what it takes to put on this type of event. fking shameful."
...and...
Friday 2nd April quote
firewalker said:
"In fact i think a later schedule all round wouldn't be a bad thing, give people chance to get there."
Crikey said:
Assuming you have left school and have a job, why not ask your boss if you could start a few hours later because you can't be arsed getting up in time to get there for a 9am start ?
Well Mr. Crikey,
No I don't (can't) volunteer but had you read my post you'll see it has nothing but praise for those who do. Alternatively I have supported SPR as a paying customer for over 30 years, enticing others to do the same. It costs me well over a weeks scrappy wages to actually attend each event, and that includes camping out in all weathers - and so I feel entitled to an opinion and to ask questions - or at least not be insulted if I'm not even being informed in a civil manner.
I live a long way from SPR and use most of my works holiday entitlement to travel to and attend the meetings. The weather has great bearing on travel plans (5-6 hours each way) depending on how much racing I am likely to see. I can't just pop home after for a cup of tea or hang about to see what the weather does if that's what you think.
I do in fact know some of the SPR staff and workers (your 'colleagues' then Mr timekeeper), and racers and have seen what goes on many many times, some of these people have themselves expressed a preference for the atmosphere night/dusk racing whatever you want to call it brings...and have pondered as I have the original question. Especially some of the sportsman racers.
There was no 'whining' or complaining going on from this end thank you, and I find your responses arrogant, insulting and aloof. Thankfully I'm aware that the UK drag racing community does not share these traits but you sir have brought yourself down a notch.
Edited by firewalker on Wednesday 14th April 19:49
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