208 GTI will be lighter and have MORE POWER!!
208 GTI will be lighter and have MORE POWER!!
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HereBeMonsters

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14,180 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Words cannot express how happy I am at this news. Finally someone at Peugeot realised what was going wrong and is going to fix it. Happy days are here again.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/...

So, when can I put my name down?

kambites

71,670 posts

252 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Very good news. Whether they can do enough in one spec to catch up to the competition, remains to be seen. I certainly hope so.

the_smalls

1,003 posts

234 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Hang on a minute, I though Peugeot had consigned the GTI badge to the bin...? Chris Harris did an ode to all things Pug GTI in evo magazine in the last 6 months I'm farily sure...

confused

bazking69

8,620 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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They have got alot of work to do to re-establish the Peugeot GTi brand in my opinion, having spent at least a decade pedalling far from hot and substandard vehicles under the GTi banner. They have RenaultSport to compete with now, so the new stuff really needs to be very good for them to stand a chance.

k-ink

9,070 posts

210 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Let me guess...

Big fat heavy jelly mould car, that looks more like a people carrier van.

zzz

DrTre

12,957 posts

263 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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k-ink said:
Let me guess...

Big fat heavy jelly mould car, that looks more like a people carrier van.

zzz
Don't forget the nose like Barry Manilow

the_smalls

1,003 posts

234 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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bazking69 said:
They have got alot of work to do to re-establish the Peugeot GTi brand in my opinion, having spent at least a decade pedalling far from hot and substandard vehicles under the GTi banner. They have RenaultSport to compete with now, so the new stuff really needs to be very good for them to stand a chance.
Agreed. Not since the 306 GTi-6 (ok so I'm biased) have Peugeot done anything of note in this segment.

hewlett

2,186 posts

252 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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It has to happen for all car manufacturers and things like metal panels will eventually seek to exist. The new Cayenne is apparently quite a bit lighter. The drive to get more and more out of a gallon of petrol must be getting expensive whereas shedding weight is relatively cheap. Happy days smile

Gad-Westy

16,646 posts

244 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Haven't they been claiming to have resurrected the spirit of the 205 GTi with every GTi they've released since the 205 GTi? Latterly, they appear to have failed spectacularly.

glazbagun

15,380 posts

228 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Forgive me if I don't hold my breath. Wasn't the 207GTI supposed to be a true successor, too?

k-ink

9,070 posts

210 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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The only car Pug has made worth a breath in a decade was the 106 GTI.... many, many years ago, in a galaxy far far away. They only sell pig ugly vans with plastic tat these days

The real Apache

39,731 posts

315 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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I think they produce the ugliest and poorly proportioned cars on the road today, it'll take a new Bangle to sort them out IMO, shame, their older stuff was beautiful.




GingerWizard

4,721 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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I have the displeasure of driving pretty much most of the current pug fleet. They are the work cars. I can catagorically say that every single one has at least 2 major flaws. They are terribly built, shocking to drive and generally bring nothing but misary to me on a daily basis.

I drive a 05 civic type r. Now the interior on my car is basic, and not really what i would call desirable. The pugs have loads more options and upgrades compaired, and yet its made of such low grade materials and is so poorly laid out i often sit and wonder what the hell the frenchists where thinking!? For instance, i had a door fall completly off a 207, the brakes completly failed on a 407 estate, and the 807's well where to start... none of the rear seats work, the electric windows and wing mirrors have a mind of there own, the engine is woefully ste, it does not handle corners... god i could go on all day.

i am completly bemused why anyone would buy a current pug, i have nothing but disdane and hate for all peugeots currently made.

The french can keep them.

HereBeMonsters

Original Poster:

14,180 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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the_smalls said:
bazking69 said:
They have got alot of work to do to re-establish the Peugeot GTi brand in my opinion, having spent at least a decade pedalling far from hot and substandard vehicles under the GTi banner. They have RenaultSport to compete with now, so the new stuff really needs to be very good for them to stand a chance.
Agreed. Not since the 306 GTi-6 (ok so I'm biased) have Peugeot done anything of note in this segment.
Hence their announcement to sort it out, I guess. Although we've all seen the lap times for the 207 GTi haven't we? (Beating every other hot hatch, and not far off an Elise, I seem to recall).

As for the GTi/GTI badge, I think it may be released as an "RC" as per European models.

The real Apache

39,731 posts

315 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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My daughter, against advice, bought a 307 (I think, they confuse me) it's first issue was dodgy window/mirror switching which I traced to the door loom at the hinge. Anyone with a bit of nous would have designed this to have the connector on the body and the lead on the door, oh no, they do it the other way so that if the loom gets damaged its on the car side not the door. Muppets.

hotmelt

861 posts

204 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Should be good, lighter, and crucially better feel and comfort. In fact it will be the best in class again.

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

261 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Well the SR1 concept is stunning IMO...




Hopefully the next series of Pugs will inherit some decent design cues...

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

261 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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hotmelt said:
Should be good, lighter, and crucially better feel and comfort. In fact it will be the best in class again.
Again? When was the last time a Pug hot hatch was best in class? It must be the 306 Rallye no?

UncappedTag

2,102 posts

216 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Hopefully this PSA engine will also make it's appearance in the Fiesta ST/RS biggrin

hotmelt

861 posts

204 months

Thursday 15th April 2010
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Beefmeister said:
hotmelt said:
Should be good, lighter, and crucially better feel and comfort. In fact it will be the best in class again.
Again? When was the last time a Pug hot hatch was best in class? It must be the 306 Rallye no?
Yes, about that time, until 106, 306s seazed production.