Dear Jenson...
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rhinochopig said:
I always thought you were a pretty mediocre driver. I could never understand how you kept your drive at Honda.
However, I'm big enough to admit I was wrong. Today was an epic drive, Please accept my apologies, you are a worthy WC!
I agree. I always thought Jenson was pretty good but nothing special. But last year plus the first races of this year have been very impressive. Particularly showing Lewis the way - the first time that Lewis has had a team-mate who has shown the upper hand (unexpectedly to Lewis I would guess) and it will be interesting to see how he comes back (which I'm sure he will). Let's hope for more races like this throughout the year.However, I'm big enough to admit I was wrong. Today was an epic drive, Please accept my apologies, you are a worthy WC!
I am a huge Jenson & lewis fan.
I think that the rules this year will only play into Jensons hands more and more.
His reputation has always been a smooth consistant driver.
I think that all things being equal Lewis is slightly quicker on a single flying lap.
This year jenson will get stronger and stronger i think.
I think that the rules this year will only play into Jensons hands more and more.
His reputation has always been a smooth consistant driver.
I think that all things being equal Lewis is slightly quicker on a single flying lap.
This year jenson will get stronger and stronger i think.
the last 5 laps today were a microcosm in which their contrasting styles were demonstrated - as soon as Button's tyres went off, Hamilton was catching him (with also gone off tyres - they pitted at the same time remember) at almost a second a lap. McLaren have a very strong driver line up, but I think Jenson's strength is in reaching maximum performance under realtively ideal conditions and Lewis' strength is in improvising and being quick whatever the condition of the car/track/tyres (e.g. look at the second safety car restart today).
indigorallye said:
I got the impression that Button backed off, whereas Lewis was pushing to maybe force a mistake?
Either way it was good to see two Union Flags at the top of the board and both in British cars.
Not forgetting the British engines, because Mercedes HPE is ex-Ilmor! I guess Button didn't want a last-lap mishap that could stuff him up so he took the safe option and managed his way to the end. Did anyone see how marginal those tyres were?!Either way it was good to see two Union Flags at the top of the board and both in British cars.
johnfelstead said:
All the top 3 are British when it comes to the cars and engines, as is most of the grid if you take away the national flags the team owners like to race under.
Something to be really proud of that 
. It seems wrong that we have no mainstream car manufacturer considering what a great engineering centre Britain is
.Duncan
I think it has been said above.
Jenson drives nicely when the car is set up well, but as soon as there is difficulty he seems to struggle. Then we have the ambition of the overtake. Jenson doesn't seem to have it quite the same way Lewis does. BUT, as I said before, it's not where you start it is where you finish. No good doing a Webber and just hurling your car into the one in front (rare for Webber, but still), you have to make it stick. However, after all that, Jenson was dominant today IMHO, and showed flair.
Jenson drives nicely when the car is set up well, but as soon as there is difficulty he seems to struggle. Then we have the ambition of the overtake. Jenson doesn't seem to have it quite the same way Lewis does. BUT, as I said before, it's not where you start it is where you finish. No good doing a Webber and just hurling your car into the one in front (rare for Webber, but still), you have to make it stick. However, after all that, Jenson was dominant today IMHO, and showed flair.
DuncanM said:
johnfelstead said:
All the top 3 are British when it comes to the cars and engines, as is most of the grid if you take away the national flags the team owners like to race under.
Something to be really proud of that . It seems wrong that we have no mainstream car manufacturer considering what a great engineering centre Britain is
.Duncan
rhinochopig said:
However, I'm big enough to admit I was wrong. Today was an epic drive, Please accept my apologies, you are a worthy WC!
Me too. Four races in and JB has won two to LH's none, and JB nearly won today by a country mile. The guy definitely has something that i never thought he had.And the thing is, think about how LH is doing against JB compared to how he did against Alonso. That's the crux for me.
I would never have ranked JB with FA, but fact is, in all ways of looking at it including how he has gelled with the team, JB is making FA look dead ordinary in comparison.
Their reactions at the end of the race said it all and shown just what a strong driving TEAM mclaren have.
Both ultra competitive drivers, both with different strengths and seemingly both having the greatest respect for each other.
As Eric pointed too, Hamilton has the common sense to look at his more experienced team mate and adjust his attitudes and learn.
Which is something that was never going to happen with the spantard there.
Both ultra competitive drivers, both with different strengths and seemingly both having the greatest respect for each other.
As Eric pointed too, Hamilton has the common sense to look at his more experienced team mate and adjust his attitudes and learn.
Which is something that was never going to happen with the spantard there.
Mojocvh said:
Which is something that was never going to happen with the spantard there.
Didn't LH recently more or less admit his first season charge for personal glory probably cost the team both championships? If he'd looked and learned a bit more, Alonso would have shown him how to bring both titles home.Eric Mc said:
And maybe Lewis will learn from Jenson. Lewis is still rather inexperienced at this GP racing. This is only his fourth season after all.
I also feel that Lewis has a lot to learn, he has raw tallent and speed, however Button has been the smarter driver and that is how he's won twice this year. BUT Vettel has the same level of inexperience/experience as Hamilton and he makes much better desisions and judgement calls.
DangerousMike said:
the last 5 laps today were a microcosm in which their contrasting styles were demonstrated - as soon as Button's tyres went off, Hamilton was catching him (with also gone off tyres - they pitted at the same time remember) at almost a second a lap. McLaren have a very strong driver line up, but I think Jenson's strength is in reaching maximum performance under realtively ideal conditions and Lewis' strength is in improvising and being quick whatever the condition of the car/track/tyres (e.g. look at the second safety car restart today).
Agree with all of that. I can't decide if JB has been insipired or lucky with his wins, as deserved as they were. But you could probably say the same of Prost...rhinochopig said:
I always thought you were a pretty mediocre driver. I could never understand how you kept your drive at Honda.
However, I'm big enough to admit I was wrong. Today was an epic drive, Please accept my apologies, you are a worthy WC!
very humble of you chap.However, I'm big enough to admit I was wrong. Today was an epic drive, Please accept my apologies, you are a worthy WC!
Ive always rated jenson, and he is a top bloke to boot.
mattikake said:
DangerousMike said:
the last 5 laps today were a microcosm in which their contrasting styles were demonstrated - as soon as Button's tyres went off, Hamilton was catching him (with also gone off tyres - they pitted at the same time remember) at almost a second a lap. McLaren have a very strong driver line up, but I think Jenson's strength is in reaching maximum performance under realtively ideal conditions and Lewis' strength is in improvising and being quick whatever the condition of the car/track/tyres (e.g. look at the second safety car restart today).
Agree with all of that. I can't decide if JB has been insipired or lucky with his wins, as deserved as they were. But you could probably say the same of Prost...Gassing Station | General Motorsport | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff