Starting a used dealership
Starting a used dealership
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waring192

Original Poster:

4 posts

207 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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Hi everyone,

Been toying with the idea for sometime now. I have the capital available and am leaning very close too starting something.

Just wondering if anyone has started one or current runs one around too give some pointers etc.

Cheers

1987

89 posts

205 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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Think you might need to be a bit more specific in which areas you need help.

But generally stick to what you know and what your comfortable with and don't try and compete with dealers. Cheap small cars are what's selling. Don't cut corners in any area and don't budget to make silly money on each car. £800 average profit is a good figure to base your plans on.

A moderate understanding of mechanics will help you endlessly as well. What sort of cars were you thinking about?

markmullen

15,877 posts

265 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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Have you sold cars before?

If not hang on to your reddies for a couple or three years, get some experience, make some contacts who'll be essential when you go it alone and learn what works and what doesn't.

paoloh

8,617 posts

235 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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1987 said:
Think you might need to be a bit more specific in which areas you need help.

But generally stick to what you know and what your comfortable with and don't try and compete with dealers. Cheap small cars are what's selling. Don't cut corners in any area and don't budget to make silly money on each car. £800 average profit is a good figure to base your plans on.

A moderate understanding of mechanics will help you endlessly as well. What sort of cars were you thinking about?
Is that a net or gross profit figure?

1987

89 posts

205 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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paoloh said:
1987 said:
Think you might need to be a bit more specific in which areas you need help.

But generally stick to what you know and what your comfortable with and don't try and compete with dealers. Cheap small cars are what's selling. Don't cut corners in any area and don't budget to make silly money on each car. £800 average profit is a good figure to base your plans on.

A moderate understanding of mechanics will help you endlessly as well. What sort of cars were you thinking about?
Is that a net or gross profit figure?
Net profit after reconditioning, warranty and VAT. It's just a conservative figure as some people seem to think all dealers make £2k on each car. It does happen but basing a business plan on that would be silly.

waring192

Original Poster:

4 posts

207 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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Thanks guys,

I have a idea on what too sell, keeping them low around the 5-8K mark. 3 large main dealers near vw/audi/bmw and in a rural area with towns near by. Possibly a few 4x4 as they are suitable for the area.

Not sold cars commercially before but many privately. But I have a history off commercial sales not car related.

My knowledge of cars is good but not great on the mechanical side although the person I would start with is.

Looking for help on where too source 1st stock and startup requirements such as liability insurance, trade plates, planning permission etc, licence too sell cars? There is not that much information on the internet.



Edited by waring192 on Sunday 18th April 14:57

markmullen

15,877 posts

265 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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As I say if you work for someone else for a couple of years you'll form the contacts and knowledge to make it work, a vast amount of trade at the lower end is done through contacts and who you know rather than advertising, most main dealers (those that are not part of a group who will have a trade policy) will have traders they trust to underwrite stock, they're very unlikely to start selling to you when they don't know you.

mattman

3,192 posts

253 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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1. Decide on your market - Classics, Sports, General, 4x4 etc
2. Get a good accountant
3. Don't bite off more than you chew - start with small premises if you can and make sure theres not too much competition around the area (although not a problem if you going to specialise)
4. As said before, have a good understanding of mechanics and if possible either have a small workshop and ramp and hire a p/t mechanic, or maybe sublet a workshop area to a mechanic so you can use their services
5. Get a good website - amazing how big you can make yourself look by a decent website - and make sure its updated regularly - it will put people off if it isn't
6. Be prepared to be flexible on price at the start and build it up, don't be afraid to lower your margins if something sticks around too long
7. Advertise!! - use the web to your advantage - Ebay is a good place to get UK coverage, just use classifieds to draw potential buyers in - look for other free websites - i.e. carandclassic.co.uk, etc
8. always offer a PX even if its a pig, start low and see how you go! Depending on what your selling some old bangers can be worth more to break and scrap then sell on
9. Make sure you HPI any P/X purchase as some owners don't even know they have a Cat C or D car on their hands
10. Make sure you have card payment facilities available, and check your charges for using them, you can lose chunks of profit if buyers spend big, you may have to charge 1 or 2% for using them, so make sure this is clearly advertised
11. Know your rights and your buyers rights - You need to be clear whats covered nder warranty, distance seller regulations etc - well worth joining something like FSB (Federation of Small Businesses) as they can provide invaluable assistance/advice.
12. Get someone like warranty direct in to do 3rd party warranties to avoid any future issues (either add to the screen price or offer it as sold as seen + additional warranty)
13. Buy stuff you enjoy, chances are if you like them you will be more positive in the sale.
14. Don't dress like an estate agent - nothing puts buyers off more than seeing some smooth Kn@bhead trying to sweet talk them into a deal
15. Enjoy it and have fun!!!

Hope that adds a few points to your list! smile

markmullen

15,877 posts

265 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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Also whilst you say you've sold many cars privately (how many? 20? 30? 50?) when you've worked for them for a while you get an eye to spotting a good car from a bad one, very very few private buyers in my experience have this skill, again one that is learnt over time.

1987

89 posts

205 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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I'm afraid sourcing cars cheap enough is your biggest challenge and unless you can think of a way to do this local to you than you'll have trouble. Main dealers, auctions, webuyanycar style advert in the local papers are the only real options available to most.








CRA1G

7,254 posts

226 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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I started my Car Sales business 30 years ago..!! And still Learning..!! Good Luckthumbup