How will the 'ash' thing affect the wider holiday market?
How will the 'ash' thing affect the wider holiday market?
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Four Cofffee

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11,838 posts

251 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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I have noticed friends who were booked to go away this week are trying to find somewhere in the UK. I was wondering how long people thought this had to go on before it started to impact people's bigger choices on their 2010 summer holidays?

I was due to book my own Uk holiday next week for Mid-May ( I always take a last minute deal) but if this drags on and people start to look around for Uk based alternatives, or ferries in May and June, I suspect there won't be many UK/ferry bargains to be had for May and June.

I am thinking I should get in now while the last minute prices are still low.

ShadownINja

78,731 posts

298 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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A combination of airline staff strikes, natural disasters and a weak pound (even weaker if it's a hung parliament) would probably have me holidaying in the UK.

standfree93

3,001 posts

203 months

Sunday 18th April 2010
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My parents have a holiday booked at the start of July, to go to Turkey.
Now, because that the volcano could spew out ash and cause chaos for possibly months, they are thinking of cancelling that holiday, which we've only put a deposit down for.

Thinking of going for a road trip to the south of France instead.

Puggit

49,167 posts

264 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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The airlines will force a change to EU 261 - the rule which means EU carriers have to fork out accommodation and 3 square meals when things go wrong. They'll force a change to allow for 'acts of god'.

uuf361

3,159 posts

238 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Horribly.......in one word.........the industry is not doing particularly well at the moment anyway and airlines/tour operators et al are losing millions per day which they won't be able to get back......

Four Cofffee

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11,838 posts

251 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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I have just booked mine (cruise ship UK-UK) because I think despite cruiselines losing US bookings more UK holidaymakers will look for a no-fly trip and prices will push up.

Four Cofffee

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11,838 posts

251 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Puggit said:
The airlines will force a change to EU 261 - the rule which means EU carriers have to fork out accommodation and 3 square meals when things go wrong. They'll force a change to allow for 'acts of god'.
My son is stranded in Berlin with Ryanair. He is staying at a hostel, and has been since Friday as he has very little cash. Reading the web sites it seems he should be acomodated and fed during the delay but I am guessing Rynair will want to book the hotel rather than him book into the Ritz?

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

255 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Four Cofffee said:
Puggit said:
The airlines will force a change to EU 261 - the rule which means EU carriers have to fork out accommodation and 3 square meals when things go wrong. They'll force a change to allow for 'acts of god'.
My son is stranded in Berlin with Ryanair. He is staying at a hostel, and has been since Friday as he has very little cash. Reading the web sites it seems he should be acomodated and fed during the delay but I am guessing Rynair will want to book the hotel rather than him book into the Ritz?
Ryan Air have announced about an hour ago that they have cancelled all flights thru to Wednesday.

Four Cofffee

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11,838 posts

251 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Silver993tt said:
Four Cofffee said:
Puggit said:
The airlines will force a change to EU 261 - the rule which means EU carriers have to fork out accommodation and 3 square meals when things go wrong. They'll force a change to allow for 'acts of god'.
My son is stranded in Berlin with Ryanair. He is staying at a hostel, and has been since Friday as he has very little cash. Reading the web sites it seems he should be acomodated and fed during the delay but I am guessing Rynair will want to book the hotel rather than him book into the Ritz?
Ryan Air have announced about an hour ago that they have cancelled all flights thru to Wednesday.
I saw that. He has rebooked for next Monday ( first day they are offering online bookings) and then hoping to rebook once they unground the planes.

Ryanair customer service is a joke. The CEO is saying they won't accomodate people they have left despite EU261/2004.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

225 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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I have been told Ryan air get round the EU directive by offering two single flights rather than a return.

Four Cofffee

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11,838 posts

251 months

Tuesday 20th April 2010
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Silver993tt said:
Four Cofffee said:
Puggit said:
The airlines will force a change to EU 261 - the rule which means EU carriers have to fork out accommodation and 3 square meals when things go wrong. They'll force a change to allow for 'acts of god'.
My son is stranded in Berlin with Ryanair. He is staying at a hostel, and has been since Friday as he has very little cash. Reading the web sites it seems he should be acomodated and fed during the delay but I am guessing Rynair will want to book the hotel rather than him book into the Ritz?
Ryan Air have announced about an hour ago that they have cancelled all flights thru to Wednesday.
Thats'this Wednesday?

Ryanair Update - 15.00hrs Tue 20 April(A)Southbound flights from Spain, Southern Italy, Malta and Morocco continue as normal.


(B)Southbound fights from South of France (Marseille) to resume Wednesday 21st April.


(C)Extra flights from the Canary Islands to Madrid scheduled for Wed 21st April and Thursday 22nd April to move passengers from Canaries to Mainland.


(D)Flights cancellations in Northern Europe extended from 1300hrs Wed 21st April to 1300hrs Thur 22nd April.


(E)Flights between Ireland and UK cancelled until 1300hrs Fri 23rd April to allow for extra flights from Ireland to Continental Europe and from UK to Continental Europe on Thursday 22nd April.


(F) Revised handling procedures notified to all airports to eliminate a backlog of passengers as soon as normal flight schedules resume.

F i F

46,972 posts

267 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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Four Cofffee said:
I have just booked mine (cruise ship UK-UK) because I think despite cruiselines losing US bookings more UK holidaymakers will look for a no-fly trip and prices will push up.
+1 also avoidance of X-rate risks so I suspect people who do book euro region trips and elsewhere will increasingly go for all inclusive deals so more of the holiday cost is covered, ie meals drinks budget covered.

Don

28,378 posts

300 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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We generally holiday in the UK.

You have to book fairly early to get the places you want anyway - I can't imagine what it will be like trying to get B&B or self-catering accomodation in the National Parks this year.

The combination of strikes and the the volcano will put people off. After all - if you successfully fly out what's the guarantee you will get back? The concern may be unfounded...but that doesn't mean it won't have a major effect!

My guess is that the airlines' pain will be British tourism's gain this year.

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

255 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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Don said:
We generally holiday in the UK.

You have to book fairly early to get the places you want anyway - I can't imagine what it will be like trying to get B&B or self-catering accomodation in the National Parks this year.

The combination of strikes and the the volcano will put people off. After all - if you successfully fly out what's the guarantee you will get back? The concern may be unfounded...but that doesn't mean it won't have a major effect!

My guess is that the airlines' pain will be British tourism's gain this year.
Surely if that's the case, tourists (who are citizens of other countries) will have the same feeling and not travel to the UK - which certainly won't be British Tourism's gain.

Don

28,378 posts

300 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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Silver993tt said:
Don said:
We generally holiday in the UK.

You have to book fairly early to get the places you want anyway - I can't imagine what it will be like trying to get B&B or self-catering accomodation in the National Parks this year.

The combination of strikes and the the volcano will put people off. After all - if you successfully fly out what's the guarantee you will get back? The concern may be unfounded...but that doesn't mean it won't have a major effect!

My guess is that the airlines' pain will be British tourism's gain this year.
Surely if that's the case, tourists (who are citizens of other countries) will have the same feeling and not travel to the UK - which certainly won't be British Tourism's gain.
Yep. I'm afraid so. But the domestic market (people staying the UK) will, hopefully, make up for that.

Hopefully.

Hub

6,785 posts

214 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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Our honeymoon is 3 months away, but have only paid a deposit so far. The rest needs paying in about a month.

It involves

a) flying
b) flying BA
c) going to Bangkok

ALL of which have caused me anxiety in recent weeks! I'm tempted to scrap it and go to Cornwall or overland it in Europe after the ordeal of the last few days and other uncertanties. Mind you I'm sure I could regret it if I do cancel. eek

I don't know how this volcano business is going to affect the unresolved BA situation and further industrial action... any ideas?