M3 19" wheels m5

[NeilhM3]

Alright guys, thinking of canging my m3 e46 for an m5, do u think the 19" m3 wheels would look good on an black m5? Has any one tried it, what's your thought's? Do u think they would daft?
Also looking for an older older m3 for Turing into a track car for about a grand, any one no of any thing kicking about?
Look forward to any response's, thanks in advance, neil

[mat205125]

Are we talking about an E39 M5? If so, I've yet to see a wheel option that looks as good as the standard items. That's purely a subjective opinion of course, however that's what was asked for

I don't know the exact dimensions, however I'm sure that there is a problem with the fitment too. Different hub centre / offsets???

[NeilhM3]

Hi Mat,

Thanks for that,

I think the E39 wheels look the business to!! but there only 18's and I have a brand new set of 19" original e46 M3 wheels with brand new tyres and thought i would give them a bash, see how they look?? If not i'll just sell them.

Going to look at a couple of M5 E39's at the weekend, any one no of any major stuff to check out for on 2000 model??

Thanks for any help guys, cheers, Neil

[Great Pretender]

The offset for the E46 is greater than it is for the E39. If you fit the 19" wheels, the car will look daft and ride and drive horribly.

[DennisCooper]

hi NeilH

There are 'some' E39 enthusiasts running E46 19 inch M3 wheels on their cars, have a search through some of the US forums to see pics. To me, I'm not too keen on them but of course when it comes to wheels there's so much differing opinion.

The vast majority of E39 M5 owners who've changed to aftermarket wheels will go for 19's and then in a style/design with a good deep lip or a style that's concave. Flat and convex styled wheels are much less popular on the E39.

Also, M5 owners tend to go for original high quality wheels from the various manufacturers out there - basically no replica wheels and no low end manufacturer wheels. The real 'ballers' will go for forged and/or split rim wheels for strength and lightness and these are of course on the top end of the price bracket!

have a good look through the big E39 and M5 wheels thread on the M5board - here you'll see pictures of the really fantastic wheels ! be warned! - get ready to want some of these

Cheers, Dennis!

[NeilhM3]

Cheers guys, that's all good, going to buy an old 325 for track days at the weekend with a m3 diff and surspention, should be good!! m50 manifold and 4 track wheels extra, looking forward to it!! Might just keep the M3 as it's totally mint, any advice on more power and exhaust nose, intakes, remaps etc on this 2002 plate, strut brace etc fitted already all genuine, thanks guys, love any advise, Neil

[Mervin Minkey]

NeilhM3 said:

Cheers guys, that's all good, going to buy an old 325 for track days at the weekend with a m3 diff and surspention, should be good!! m50 manifold and 4 track wheels extra, looking forward to it!! Might just keep the M3 as it's totally mint, any advice on more power and exhaust nose, intakes, remaps etc on this 2002 plate, strut brace etc fitted already all genuine, thanks guys, love any advise, Neil

Erm, that's a pretty big list.

If you want 'big' power increases you need to look into supercharging or turbocharging. Cost about £10k as a very approximate figure dependant on what power you want.

If you're looking at tuning the stock motor it's the usual things, intake (CSL), exhaust, though apparently the stock item is pretty good as far as power is concerned. Various companies will offer ones to make more noise, different 'rasp' etc. Remaps I'm not sure about. Several tuners offer them and most claim 10-15 bhp increase. This would most likely be combined with the CLS intake.

If you keep the M3, get on the model specific forums, including the American one's as there's a wealth of info on there for both tuning and styling as you'd expect.

[mat205125]

I'm interested in a little tuning too, and have considered starting with the induction. Without buying a pond filter and a tumble drier outlet from Halfords, are there any options out there for a "sensible" budget - Many that I have seen are priced in the thousands.

[NeilhM3]

Nice 1, going to check all that st out and report back, heard it was about 10 k for superchargers etc, bit out my price range! I no I'll end up spending a bit on the track car me and ma pal are going to buy just seen a very nice 328 this morning which has now become as possiblity! The weekend should be good, hopefully have a sweet track slag by Sunday. I'll have a look at the other mods your talking about for the m3,
thanks again, neil

[NeilhM3]

Alrighty guys, just to comment on the tunning, no loads of guys at BMW dealers who put me on to specialists that run all sorts of good st! Any way been told that the intake system costs over3k and is not worth it, spark plugs are the bus, stops the ruffness when the cars cold and adds 5 bhp, I'll post the name of them forgot just now. Knackered after being on the piss last night, and just finished changing my pals, brakes after work!! Also remaps don't add that much maybe 12 bhp, but exhausts are good to make more of a throtie sound, need the right ones or u loose power, again I'll post the name of the right one when I get it out my office, the guys i've been speaking to no's there st, keep u's posted, cheers, neil

[Mervin Minkey]

NeilhM3 said:

Alrighty guys, just to comment on the tunning, no loads of guys at BMW dealers who put me on to specialists that run all sorts of good st! Any way been told that the intake system costs over3k and is not worth it, spark plugs are the bus, stops the ruffness when the cars cold and adds 5 bhp, I'll post the name of them forgot just now. Knackered after being on the piss last night, and just finished changing my pals, brakes after work!! Also remaps don't add that much maybe 12 bhp, but exhausts are good to make more of a throtie sound, need the right ones or u loose power, again I'll post the name of the right one when I get it out my office, the guys i've been speaking to no's there st, keep u's posted, cheers, neil

Unless current plugs are faulty, no way will you get a 5 bhp increase simply from popping new ones in. Roughness when cold is fairly widely known issue on these, though mine isn't too bad personally. Carbon intake options are about £1-2k, not £3k. Hour or 2 to fit I think. Correct re exhaust re power. Certain options save weight over the original apparently if that matters (i.e. if you track the car). Re-maps seem to be anywhere between 10 and 20 bhp dependant on who you go to and who you believe in terms of their figures. Hope this helps.

[NeilhM3]

It does, thanks mate.
The exhaust I was recomended is a super sprint and the plugs are called denso, any surgestions on the intakes? Where to get them? Going to look at some 328-325's for a track this weekend, seen some peaches, fingers crossed, cheers, neil

[mat205125]

Anyone got a link to a sensible carbon airbox kit?

[Mervin Minkey]

NeilhM3 said:

It does, thanks mate.
The exhaust I was recomended is a super sprint and the plugs are called denso, any surgestions on the intakes? Where to get them? Going to look at some 328-325's for a track this weekend, seen some peaches, fingers crossed, cheers, neil

Glad to be of assistance. I can't help on the 'zorst as it's simply not of interest for me to change mine so I haven't researched them in any detail. I like the stock noise and don't need to drop any weight via getting a new one. On the intake front, Google 'CSL carbon intake' and several tuners should come up with their own options.

For what it's worth, if you're getting a 325/328 to track, my advice is to spend your money there, not on the M3 (unless you're minted and can afford to do both?). My last car was a full stage 2 Leon Curpa R which I spent give or take £10k on for both road and track. If I had my time again, I would have saved the cash on modding that, and bought a seprate track car, which I would then have tuned in various ways, and lightened as well. Would have been far more cost effective I think.

I don't intend to track my M3 as it would be too expensive if I binned it, plus it would compromise what's a very nice fast road car. Most of the bits done so to mine so far are cosmetic, though I may pop some coilovers on in due course to tighten up the handling a bit.

Just my 2p.

[NeilhM3]

Yeh I'm the same not going to spend much on the m3 as it's mint, getting a cheap track car for the same reason, dont want to prang the m3! I'll keep you's up dated when speak to the guys about the plugs, exhaust, intakes etc, like the idea of some coil overs, the strut braces I fitted make a difference.........all in good time, going to look at some trackers this weekend, my money tree's not to healthy these days, haa, cheers guys

[Mervin Minkey]

mat205125 said:

Anyone got a link to a sensible carbon airbox kit?

Matt

Try these chaps:

http://www.simpsonmotorsport.co.uk/bmw-tuning/prod...

They seem to be held in pretty good regard by guys on some of the forums. Especially good with suspension I believe.

To clarify, I don't have this (or any other) airbox so can't speak from first hand experience, but you could give them a ring and have a chat about it. I don't think you'd really notice any power gain, most likely just a change in the induction sound.

[NeilhM3]

They look the business, thinking about getting one along with slight exhaust mods, should sound even better than better than standard!! Nice 1

[NeilhM3]

They look the business, thinking about getting one along with slight exhaust mods, should sound even better than better than standard!! Nice 1