RE: The Perils Of Potholes
RE: The Perils Of Potholes
Thursday 22nd April 2010

The Perils Of Potholes

PH comes a cropper in Cumbria as the UK's pothole problem deepens



Anyone else had a problem with a pothole recently? We came unstuck in a big way when we tripped over this bad boy on the road between Lakeside and Newby Bridge at Windermere.

The monster lurks here...
The monster lurks here...
The four-inch deep pit was out of sight behind a small crest as we approached. It's a tight little bit of road and there was stuff coming the other way, so our progress was naturally cautious. But having to keep an eye on the oncoming traffic meant we didn't get a sense of this huge pothole's cavernous depths until we were right on top of it. By which time our options were limited to ploughing on through, or swerving into the path of a Transit van.

The result? One completely written-off front tyre, a rear tyre with a damaged shoulder, and a pair of (very expensive) dinked alloy wheels. Yes, ouch, indeed!

Pulled-over to avoid further rim damage
Pulled-over to avoid further rim damage
As the pictures show, we were able to stop and pull into a gateway a few yards up the road, so we evidently hadn't been travelling at speed. Even so, the elastic-band-profiled Pirelli P Zeros fitted to our Audi R8 Spyder test car didn't stand a chance as they thunked against the near vertical lip of the pothole - and the front one burst with quite a bang.

Audi's 'get you home' tyre inflation kit was useless with a ruptured sidewall, so we got on the phone to their emergency call centre, which it turns out has been sub-contracted to the RAC.

Er... right then, better get on the phone!
Er... right then, better get on the phone!
And then we waited... and waited... looking at some rather attractive sheep, and listening to the succession of sickening thuds as the pothole took its toll on the rest of the traffic. Cars on more mainstream tyres seemed to soak it up OK, although we did see a red Fiesta lose a wheel trim, and a Fiat hubcap had been thrown over the wall into the field at the same spot.

Turns out there's a contractual obligation that any R8s lifted by the RAC have to transported in covered wagons, and guess what? The nearest RAC covered wagon was miles away in Manchester. Oh, and it was a Sunday afternoon. But on the positive side, there was somebody working the phones trying to find us a replacement tyre.

Other cars got away more lightly
Other cars got away more lightly
A friendly RAC patrol turned up after a couple of hours, having found said item at a depot an hour away in Penrith. So together we moved the car to a spot less exposed to traffic, and then we fed Mini Cheddars to the local ducks, while he whipped off the front wheel and disappeared - returning some time later with a fitted replacement.

Total time spent by the side of the road? A whole five hours, which I have to admit wouldn't necessarily have filled us with glee if we'd just splashed out £117k on this glamorous car ourselves. (Although as journos we know which side our bread is buttered, so take these sorts of things happily on the chin!)

One of the (brand new) R8's alloys
One of the (brand new) R8's alloys
As for the total cost of the damage, well we're still waiting for Audi to tot it up. But I've already received the claim form I requested from Cumbria council, so it will be interesting to see how we get on with that.

Incidentally, according to a story in the Daily Mail today, last year 1.4million potholes were filled in England and Wales at a cost of £100million. A further £30million in compensation was paid to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians injured by potholes.

With the average pothole costing £78 to repair, and more than 1.6million potholes reported, the figures for this year are expected to be even higher.

Experts estimate that, after a decade of underinvestment from Whitehall, Britain's roads need £9.5billion spent on them, the newspaper reports.

There are worse places to be stranded
There are worse places to be stranded
We made friends with some sheep...
We made friends with some sheep...
Fed some ducks...
Fed some ducks...
And watched Thomas the Tank Engine!
And watched Thomas the Tank Engine!
Author
Discussion

muckyman

Original Poster:

326 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Looks like you had a grand day out
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Chris-R

756 posts

208 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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muckyman said:
Looks like you had a grand day out
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It was a lot nicer than the hard shoulder of the M1! smile

Ayahuasca

27,558 posts

300 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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What's that thing about always being able to stop (or at least slow down sufficiently) in the distance you can see?

pSyCoSiS

4,098 posts

226 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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This year the pot holes seems to be a lot worse...

Shame about the damage to the R8 - hopefully the council will cough up!

Sharpeee

40 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Hit the same one on Saturday in the wifes C class everything seems ok but would not have liked to hit it in something sporty, especially as it would be me having to pay for it

hman

7,497 posts

215 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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The council only pay out if it has been reported prior to the accident.

If not - no dice.

Edited by hman on Thursday 22 April 13:00

soad

34,278 posts

197 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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At least you sampled the countryside - some roads are shockingly bad it seems.

Edited by soad on Thursday 22 April 13:05

djt100

1,739 posts

206 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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A good few years ago in a 309gti i hit a very large pot hole, took out the wheel,bent the suspension leg , streering arm and cracked the gearbox casing, Took me a year to claim from the council. they just kept delaying, etc. Was a complete nightmare, but lucky I was full com and my legal cover covered the full cost of hire car, etc as they know I was going to win... But I'd never wish it on anyone again....


Keep us updated with the claim, be interesting to see how you get on

spice

646 posts

291 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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picked up my new Maserati GTS on 1st May blew the FNS Tyre on the way home down a flipping Pot Hole , lucky i took out the Tyre and wheel cover, picked it up and had a new Tyre the next day

jains15

1,013 posts

194 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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hman said:
The council only pay out if it has been reported prior to the accident.

If not - no dice.

Edited by hman on Thursday 22 April 13:00
Wouldn't you be able to get a mate to report it, then claim your accident happened a sufficient time after this event? So whole reported and damage caused within like, 20 mins of each other...

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soad

34,278 posts

197 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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jains15 said:
Wouldn't you be able to get a mate to report it, then claim your accident happened a sufficient time after this event? So whole reported and damage caused within like, 20 mins of each other...

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I like your thinking. thumbup

Chris-R

756 posts

208 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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hman said:
The council only pay out if it has been reported prior to the accident.

If not - no dice.

Edited by hman on Thursday 22 April 13:00
Didn't know that. Hopefully some public-spirited local will have done so, then...

Ollieb7

429 posts

219 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Perhaps the state of our roads should be part of the 'great' pollitical debate tonight. It is an outrage that the motorist should be treated as the cash cow and yet we get to drive on inadequate roads that are becoming dangerous!

Chris-R

756 posts

208 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Ayahuasca said:
What's that thing about always being able to stop (or at least slow down sufficiently) in the distance you can see?
Yes, but being able to stop in the distance you can see ahead, and being able to see into a pothole are quite different things. We had slowed significantly for it, but I guess you had to be there! smile

The Boff

5 posts

190 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Have a look at www.Potholes.co.uk/how_to_claim which tells you exactly what process you need to go through.

austin

1,313 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Good luck with that, we got nothing back after hitting a huge one in Sussex.

The annoying thing was that brand new tyres were fitted the day before...

Ayahuasca

27,558 posts

300 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Maybe it's a government policy to control speed, after all it is likely to be fast expensive sports cars that are most affected and they are targeted in other ways too. Maybe they are asking themselves if a government should spend billions on beautifully smooth roads that become racetracks for the few when 80% of traffic doesn't mind a pothole or two? Wouldn't put it past them.


Edited by Ayahuasca on Thursday 22 April 13:33

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

274 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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That's not a pot hole that's and open cast mine yikes

toxgobbler

2,903 posts

212 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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And if you were on a bicycle, moped or motorbike and were unable to avoid this, the damage would be more severe than just mechanical, it could be life threatening. The state of the roads is no joke and does put lives at risk.

TVRWannabee

524 posts

268 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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toxgobbler said:
And if you were on a bicycle, moped or motorbike and were unable to avoid this, the damage would be more severe than just mechanical, it could be life threatening. The state of the roads is no joke and does put lives at risk.
That's very true. Potholes can be very difficult to see at the best of times - and on two wheels the effect is disasterous. I have come damn close several times on my pushbike and fortunately the only time I was thrown off I was the only vehicle around.

Even on four wheels, my boring Vauxhall Astra on 17" rims has just had to have two not too old tyres replaced - the cumulative effect of potholes and damaged speed humps on the tracking.

On the plus side, I note Hampshire County Council have gone all-out (in spite of Government inactivity) to address the problem. Several roads have been closed near me to be repaired or resurfaced - but there are still plenty more to do.

I just hope the council are not using cheapo low-grade money saving materials!