Landfill and coastal erosion.
Discussion
Hang on, we're running out of space for landfill and our coastline is gradually being eroded
Why don't we use the coastline for landfill and kill two birds with one stone. They do it in HK, why not here?
I must have missed something, surely?
Why don't we use the coastline for landfill and kill two birds with one stone. They do it in HK, why not here?I must have missed something, surely?
If this turns out to be an utterly stupid idea it's early, OK.
randlemarcus said:
If, by landfill, you mean rubble, huge lumps of concrete and other fairly heavy inert things, good thinking.
If you mean small, lightweight, stinky things such as the stuff that goes in my bin, I really dont want that swirling round the beach next time I go there
^^^ ThisIf you mean small, lightweight, stinky things such as the stuff that goes in my bin, I really dont want that swirling round the beach next time I go there

Jayzee said:
randlemarcus said:
If, by landfill, you mean rubble, huge lumps of concrete and other fairly heavy inert things, good thinking.
If you mean small, lightweight, stinky things such as the stuff that goes in my bin, I really dont want that swirling round the beach next time I go there
^^^ ThisIf you mean small, lightweight, stinky things such as the stuff that goes in my bin, I really dont want that swirling round the beach next time I go there


BliarOut said:
Jayzee said:
randlemarcus said:
If, by landfill, you mean rubble, huge lumps of concrete and other fairly heavy inert things, good thinking.
If you mean small, lightweight, stinky things such as the stuff that goes in my bin, I really dont want that swirling round the beach next time I go there
^^^ ThisIf you mean small, lightweight, stinky things such as the stuff that goes in my bin, I really dont want that swirling round the beach next time I go there



To temporarily stop the sea you need something hard and stable. Rotting cardboard boxes and old condoms isn't going to help. Most Landfill is pretty horrible stuff, the leachates, gases and chemicals involved are to use a scientific word "yukky".
Inert landfill (rubble, soil, glass etc) is already used all over the UK to landscape and raise groundlevel above local flod sources whether they be the sea or rivers.
We will never stop the sea. No matter how much tax we pay.
Whilst people whinge about recyling of waste it is a very serious problem, we do not have the space to bury everything so to sort it and sell it to people recylce (or bury in their holes in the ground) is in fact very sensible in theory, no matter what the Daily Wail says.
Inert landfill (rubble, soil, glass etc) is already used all over the UK to landscape and raise groundlevel above local flod sources whether they be the sea or rivers.
We will never stop the sea. No matter how much tax we pay.
Whilst people whinge about recyling of waste it is a very serious problem, we do not have the space to bury everything so to sort it and sell it to people recylce (or bury in their holes in the ground) is in fact very sensible in theory, no matter what the Daily Wail says.
southendpier said:
To temporarily stop the sea you need something hard and stable. Rotting cardboard boxes and old condoms isn't going to help. Most Landfill is pretty horrible stuff, the leachates, gases and chemicals involved are to use a scientific word "yukky".
Inert landfill (rubble, soil, glass etc) is already used all over the UK to landscape and raise groundlevel above local flod sources whether they be the sea or rivers.
We will never stop the sea. No matter how much tax we pay.
Whilst people whinge about recyling of waste it is a very serious problem, we do not have the space to bury everything so to sort it and sell it to people recylce (or bury in their holes in the ground) is in fact very sensible in theory, no matter what the Daily Wail says.
Inert landfill (rubble, soil, glass etc) is already used all over the UK to landscape and raise groundlevel above local flod sources whether they be the sea or rivers.
We will never stop the sea. No matter how much tax we pay.
Whilst people whinge about recyling of waste it is a very serious problem, we do not have the space to bury everything so to sort it and sell it to people recylce (or bury in their holes in the ground) is in fact very sensible in theory, no matter what the Daily Wail says.
A lot of the greenie/climate change stuff does wind me up and seem like a waste of time, but I recycle as much stuff as possible. If you can recycle card, plastic, glass, metal, then why just bin it?Ian974 said:
southendpier said:
To temporarily stop the sea you need something hard and stable. Rotting cardboard boxes and old condoms isn't going to help. Most Landfill is pretty horrible stuff, the leachates, gases and chemicals involved are to use a scientific word "yukky".
Inert landfill (rubble, soil, glass etc) is already used all over the UK to landscape and raise groundlevel above local flod sources whether they be the sea or rivers.
We will never stop the sea. No matter how much tax we pay.
Whilst people whinge about recyling of waste it is a very serious problem, we do not have the space to bury everything so to sort it and sell it to people recylce (or bury in their holes in the ground) is in fact very sensible in theory, no matter what the Daily Wail says.
Inert landfill (rubble, soil, glass etc) is already used all over the UK to landscape and raise groundlevel above local flod sources whether they be the sea or rivers.
We will never stop the sea. No matter how much tax we pay.
Whilst people whinge about recyling of waste it is a very serious problem, we do not have the space to bury everything so to sort it and sell it to people recylce (or bury in their holes in the ground) is in fact very sensible in theory, no matter what the Daily Wail says.
A lot of the greenie/climate change stuff does wind me up and seem like a waste of time, but I recycle as much stuff as possible. If you can recycle card, plastic, glass, metal, then why just bin it?Edited by monthefish on Tuesday 27th April 14:42
Being done already

Concrete is either mixed with non-recyclable material or they are made hollow, then filled and sealed.
Not practical for most of the UK suffering from erosion as you need to make them near to where they are needed which means lots of machinery and shipping of waste from far and wide so better suited to smaller island environments.
Coastal landfills wouldn't work as a defence mechanism. You'd need retaining walls to protect both against the sea and the contents from the sea. Would be cheaper and just as effective to build a sea wall.

Concrete is either mixed with non-recyclable material or they are made hollow, then filled and sealed.
Not practical for most of the UK suffering from erosion as you need to make them near to where they are needed which means lots of machinery and shipping of waste from far and wide so better suited to smaller island environments.
Coastal landfills wouldn't work as a defence mechanism. You'd need retaining walls to protect both against the sea and the contents from the sea. Would be cheaper and just as effective to build a sea wall.
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